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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2008 02:11 am    Post subject: Can it work?

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Greetings and salutations all! A: Hello to all. its been a long time. been recovering from knee surgery until my release back to slavery about 2 1/2 months ago. since then the whip has cracked endlessly leaving me no real spare time. anyways onto B:. In theory the ideology and beliefs discussed here would make this world a much better place, and in theory the way to achieve this utopia could work. My question is does anyone here believe that this could actually become a reality and if so what would it take make it happen?
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PostPosted: 20 Jun 2008 03:56 am    Post subject:

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I think changing the world requires finding a new way to persuade people. That means figuring out why we have previously failed to be peruasive. Perhaps our personalties are unlikeable. Perhaps we use too many big words. Perhaps we need to communicate more through song lyrics and less through angry yelling. Whatever it is, we need to find it out, and when we find it out, be willing to admit it.

I don't agree with the old Marxian idea that capitalist society will one day "collapse" due to its "inner contradictions" leading to a "new crisis." That's just wishful thinking. There are too many ways the people who run the system can prop it up. It can operate horribly bad but it still goes on existing -- until someone persuades the people consciously to change it.

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I have two ideas to unite the splintered left:

(1) Adopting a new tradition that everyone who disagrees with each other about some things have to cooperate in whatever they agree on. So if group #1 believes in idea A,B,C,D and group #2 believes in ideas D,E,F,G then they have to collaborate on at least one project that promotes idea D.

(2) Adopting a new tradition that groups that disagree about something will coauthor a statement that describes their disagreement in words that both groups can agree on. They don't compromise their principles but they have to understand each other enough to agree on how to state what each other's positions are.

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