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mikelepore
PostPosted: 17 Sep 2004 03:25 pm    Post subject: Personal discussion & off-topic chatter

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davesearles
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject:

Mike did you get my message about that I couldn't pull up my web mail from my domain on the college's computer network?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Oct 2006 07:29 am    Post subject:

I went to read it just now, after you mentioned it. I haven't been reading my email regularly because of an inconvenience where we recently got broadband from the cable TV company and the guy from the cable company cut one of my telephone lines for no good reason.

Here's your official notification of a change of email address for M. Lepore - effective immediately - use lepore3 at optonline dot net , and don't forget to type the 3 . My bestweb account will be cancelled in a couple days.

Does the web mail you tried have a field where you need to enter your pop3 address and your SMTP address? These are needed for an email reader to find the host. The email address and password aren't enough.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 07 Nov 2006 05:45 pm    Post subject:

I just had the funniest conversation (funny if it weren't so tragic) with Verizon:

rep: How may I help you? Is this about a repair?

me: No.

rep: Well, I'd be happy to help you with anything at all -- ordering new services, billing questions, whatever. What can I do for you?

me: I want to cancel my account.

rep: I'm sorry, this office is closed in observance of the holiday. Please call back during normal business hours.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2006 09:37 pm    Post subject:

Heh! What happened to the pharmacy link? Now where the hell am I going to buy my Cialis?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2006 09:41 pm    Post subject:

I've been hanging out over at World in Common for a while. They don't seem quite so stuck up as thre WSMers do. IMHO Some of the same people on WiC and WSM

A lot of people have that bug of a magical big rock candy mountain. I'll bet that it turns a lot of workers off, IMHO.

Free access to me means free access to the means of production. Any idea where the term derived from and when?

dave
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 23 Nov 2006 06:48 pm    Post subject:

Where the term came from - all I know is, in the late '60s and early '70s I used to read the magazine that was then jointly published by two WSM parties, the World Soc Party US and the Soc Party of Canada. The publication always said "a world without money"; "free access to all that is produced." The publication had a Declaration of Principles containing this or similar language.

I believe it turns people off. It plays directly to the ever-popular expectation, "I already know what 'true socialism' is. It's a beautiful dream that could never happen. A perfect world that's against human nature." If socialists are going to demonstrate that something is practial, the last thing we would need is a program that says, "We know this plan will work because we feel intuitively that people in the future will think and act differently." That's not social science.

The WiC group was founded with the intention of including anyone with a non-state and non-market conception of socialism, regardless of all other differences, no matter how fundamental those differences are. I believe they have about three members who call themselves De Leonists.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 01 Dec 2006 07:41 pm    Post subject:

Dave, remember those leaflets we used to hand out by the thousands on the street? They're selling on eBay now for about $5.00 apiece.

http://search.ebay.com/socialist-labor-party

I assume the sellers are finding some buyers, otherwise they wouldn't continue paying the eBay listing fees, and it looks to me like the sellers are operating in a repeating loop.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 01 Dec 2006 09:55 pm    Post subject:

Not quite worth their weight in gold, yet.

I have still been hanging out over at WiC with Byron.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 06 Dec 2006 02:58 am    Post subject:

Ten years ago this month, the death of Carl Sagan.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 16 Dec 2006 05:22 am    Post subject:

Listen to this! In September I sent my 18-year-old daughter off to college, and she was like a kid, all Nickelodeon cartoons and so forth. Now after one semester, she came home today for Xmas vacation, and she talking about "cultural hegemony" and "patriarchal society"! I'm absolutely ecstatic!
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davesearles
PostPosted: 25 Dec 2006 12:04 am    Post subject:

Mike, do me a favor, my mind is broken - how does the calc go to determine how high that you would have to hold something for it to be going 1.47 ft/sec (5 m.p.h.) when it hits the ground after it is dropped from that height?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2006 02:56 am    Post subject:

For some reason the hegemony word rolls around in their brains as if it means a god damned thing. Don't get too crazy excited.

I have been working on a math probem concernng acelleration under free fall. Of course it's 32 ft/ sec squared when measured in time elapsed. By how about in distance fallen? It looks like that velocity increases 2 ft/sec for every foot fallen. Does that seem right to you? Seems too simple for some reason.

What math would show that?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2006 08:04 pm    Post subject:

Kinematics for a constant acceleration includes five variables. They are: v_i = initial velocity, v_f = final velocity, a = acceleration (a constant), x = displacement, time = t. There are four kinematics formulas. Each of the four formulas includes four of the five variables and it has one of the variables missing. The kinematic relationship that includes both the final velocity and the displacement, and it doesn't include the unknown time value, is:

v_f squared = v_i squared + 2 a x

Dropped from rest, set v_i = 0 .

v_f squared = 2 a x

To input the fact the final velocity is some given number, and then find "how high", you must solve for x:

x = ( v_f squared ) / 2 a
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject:

The History Channel is stupid crap. Just to have some background noise I'm listening to this program which is seriously posing the question: are we assured that the end of the world will occur in a certain way because it was described that way by the ancient Mayan prophets? What a stupid question. Another stupid thing this channel does is speak of paranormal claims like haunted houses, or the government's secret flying saucer warehouses, with the same kind of phrasing that people ordinarily speak of purely factual matters, without the benefit of a moderating word like "allegedly". Irritating pandering to mass stupidity.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 Dec 2006 12:13 am    Post subject:

Stupid! The web site revolutionaryleft.com has had, for a long time, a huge forum, thousands of topics, many moderators with their own categories, some excellent discussions of Marxist theory and history. Now, since about four days ago, the domain points back to the registrar because no one paid the small fee to renew the domain name. Stupid!
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 Jan 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject:

I wonder if a number would be a good domain name. All numbers up to four digits, such 9125.com seem to be taken already - the domain registrars themselves seized them just so they can resell them. Some five digit numbers are taken but not all. I saw a directory of Los Angeles hotels named 90210.com , but my own zip code .com seems to be still available. Then meaningful names in the subdomain field could be rented out to others, such as electronics.90210.com or communism.90210.com . Crazy idea or what?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 13 Jan 2007 09:27 am    Post subject:

My post Dec. 31, I commented that revolutionaryleft.com (a forum much larger than this one) went offline. They are now back up but at a new location, http://www.revleft.com .
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 11 Feb 2007 08:53 pm    Post subject:

To the person who emailed me a few days ago and asked me to reply because, you said, "I need to check to see if my e-mail service is working on this old computer"

I send a reply, and your host got it, but your host sent it back to me with the error message:

Remote SMTP server has rejected address
550 - No mailbox here by that name.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 11 Feb 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject:

It is now working.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject:

Curses because the starter of my snowblower burned out with a puff of smoke at the worst possible moment. I had no choice but to drink a liter of schnapps and use a snow shovel.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject:

Are prices going crazy or what? The furnace wouldn't make any heat or hot water one morning, which was my own fault because I didn't get it cleaned for a couple years. Clogged with dog hair and cat hair. Our regular plumber was too busy to come at a moment's notice, so we got another guy. In addition to cleaning the unit, he replaced two inexpensive parts, the gasket and the photocell. It took him about an hour, or maybe an hour and a quarter. $554.50 is what he charged.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2007 04:08 pm    Post subject:

John, Feb. 11th you said "It is now working." February 13th, same error message.

Your message cannot be delivered
Remote SMTP server has rejected address
Diagnostic code: smtp;550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name
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davesearles
PostPosted: 18 Feb 2007 08:34 am    Post subject:

do not pay it. Mail him a check for $250 and on the bottom write "all accounts paid in full"
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2007 03:32 am    Post subject:

I'm obligated to pay him because I knew the price when I gave him approval. I make bad decisions when I have to answer quickly, like if there's no heat in January and the furnace repairman asks for a go-ahead. In order to make a sensible decision I need time to think. Whenever I need to answer quickly, I do something stupid.

But all self-employed contractors in my region are doing this with prices. Doesn't matter whether it's a house painter or snow plower or chimney sweep, they all get paid between $300 and $500 per hour. Car repair is even worse. A broken alternator belt will cost you about $600.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2007 03:01 pm    Post subject:

The next time you have no heat give me a call. I will walk you through any repair over the phone and charge you only $100 per hour but if it's really an emergency I will have to charge you $300 per hour.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2007 10:46 am    Post subject:

An excerpt from William Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell.



I was in a Printing house in Hell & saw the method in which knowledge is transmitted from generation to generation.

In the first chamber was a Dragon-Man, clearing away the rubbish from a cave's mouth; within, a number of Dragons were hollowing the cave.

In the second chamber was a Viper folding round the rock & the cave, and others adorning it with gold silver and precious stones.

In the third chamber was an Eagle with wings and feathers of air: he caused the inside of the cave to be infinite, around were numbers of Eagle like men, who built palaces in the immense cliffs.

In the fourth chamber were Lions of flaming fire raging around & melting the metals into living fluids.

In the fifth chamber were Unnam'd forms, which cast the metals into the expanse.

There they were reciev'd by Men who occupied the sixth chamber, and took the forms of books & were arranged in libraries.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject:

"Does not the worm erect a pillar in the mouldering church yard?"

-- William Blake, in Visions of the Daughters of Albion
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject:

The Red Wheel Barrow
by William Carlos Williams


so much depends
upon
a red wheel
barrow
glazed with rain
water
beside the white
chickens
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davesearles
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2007 09:22 pm    Post subject:

so much depends upon
the little red hen
pushing that wheelbarrow
that you can fry those white chickens
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2007 09:10 am    Post subject:

Here's another one with the money. The guy who plows the snow for this subdivision of three houses. This is what he charges: $40 from each of the three families for their share of the subdivision driveway, plus $55 from each family who wants their personal driveway plowed, which is the other two families, since I have a snowblower. So he collects (3)(40)+(2)(55) = $230 for forty minutes work, which is equivalent to $345 per hour.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2007 09:38 am    Post subject:

Maybe I should create a forum category for light-hearted fun stuff. Then I could post favorite quotations from Immanuel Kant, essays about solar corona mass ejections, and other light-hearted fun stuff.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 28 Feb 2007 02:24 am    Post subject:

Will Be back at a later date. Wife is once again in the hospital.

John
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2007 12:36 am    Post subject:

The wife came home today. What put her in the hospital was a nasty infection in the same area as before. However, the doctor is positive that the infection will go away with anti-biotics. She also was diagnosed with type two diabetes. Mad
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2007 08:30 am    Post subject:

I've read that there is scientific evidence that visualization exercises can also help the body's immune system. Such activities as meditating on the image of a golden and warm light filling one's body and working on repairing everything that needs to be fixed. The theory is that the immune system, and also the subconscious mind where visualization has power, have a common connection. They come together in the peripheral nervous system that regulates involuntary responses. A vivid image can affect some bodily functions that are usually considered involuntary (I can make my mouth get a sour feeling by visualizing that I'm sucking a lemon), and I believe that future science will prove that this effect goes further than people today realize.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject:

John wrote:

Wife is once again in the hospital.

dave writes:

You both have all of the prayers that we atheists are capable of.

dave
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

I've read that there is scientific evidence that visualization exercises ...

dave writes,

yes I have heard of this. In fact I use something like it when I am hungry. I visualize myself getting up and going out the the refrigerator and getting something to eat, and then almost as if by magic I do get up and go get something to eat. This technique is responsible for me being about 80 pounds overweight, but I guess you couldn't have more substantial proof of the effectiveness of this technique than that.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject:

English language unfair to atheists! It makes us sound uncaring, which is unwarrated.

A dialogue:

A: How about that terrible attack on September 11?
B: Yes, it was a horrible thing. Dreadful.
A: I'm going to pray for the victims! I assume you will too, right?
B: No. I won't.
A: What?! You won't pray for the victims? How could you be such an unfeeling ghoul?

You should see the heat I've gotten from being part of an old-fashioned everybody-kisses-everybody Italian family and my kids weren't baptized. I keep getting drawn into answering Pascal's Wager.

And yet during Hurricane Katrina, not one of _them_ so much as sacrificed a goat to Poseidon. (How could they be such unfeeling ghouls? :-)

I guess Pascal's Wager doesn't work both ways.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 02 Mar 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject:

Dave wrote:

Quote:
John wrote:

Wife is once again in the hospital.

dave writes:

You both have all of the prayers that we atheists are capable of.

dave


Thank you very much Dave! Very Happy Visualization? My wife's stroke kinda negates the exercise since her short term memory is not very good.

John
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2007 06:41 pm    Post subject:

Boy, I had a scare with the wife's blood sugar level last night that I had to call a nurse and ask what to do about it. She came through okay, after following instructions, and she is near normal today.

Mike, in the new society should there be a "bill of rights" that would actually protects everyone's point of view? Basically we are not carbon copies of each other though Mao Tse Tung tried to create such a society and everyone had the same grey outfit on. What I am trying to say outside of Leninist political enforcement is that there is discrimination in American society favoring one group's beliefs over another. But to turn it over to the other group's beliefs (I don't mean the belief in who owns the means of production) in the new society is just as discriminating.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2007 09:22 pm    Post subject:

I think the best form for a bill of rights would be to give a general principle first, and then the examples. Today the bill of rights doesn't give any general principle. It doesn't come right out and say that people are allowed to do anything they wish to do as long as they don't take away the the rights of others. This failure allows the government to outlaw anything except for the items on a small list. Let's say they were to pass a new law that anyone who eats a green apple on a Thurdsay shall get life in prison. The supreme court would review it, note that this outlawed activity isn't on the list of guaranteed freedoms -- it's not religion, it's not speech, it's not assembly, etc. -- and so the oppressive law would be upheld as constitutional. I'm saying it should be the other way around -- an activity should be legal automatically unless it can be shown that it infringes on someone else's rights. The supreme court performing judicial reviews should say: let's check the act of eating a green apple on a Thursday. Is it a form of killing? No. Is it a form of stealing? No. It doesn't impede the rights of others, so by default it must be legal. So the present procedure is backwards -- it merely lists a small number of things that we may do, and any kind of unifying formula is missing.

So, to answer your question directly, I would like to see such rights as expressed opinion and religion guaranteed by listing them among a long but partial list of examples of some of the activities that are guaranteed precisely because the rights of other people are not infringed by them.

Example of possible text structure: "Every individual shall have the absolute and unconditional right to perform any action unless it has been proven that the action infringes directly on the rights of other individuals. Accordingly, the following activities, which certainly do not infringe on the rights of other individuals, are among the activities that individual have the rights to perform...." Now here is where the list -- speech, religion, etc. -- should be be placed, as examples that illustrate the general principle.

Today the constitution fails in this respect. Because of this deficiency, 400,000 Americans are in currently prison for smoking marijuana. It's because the present bill of rights makes prohibition the default and permission the exception. The present form is logically as well as practically untenable, because it's not feasible to list everything that is to be legal. Are we going to have a constitution that says people have the right to have a barbecue, the right to eat carrots, the right to play soccer, the right to scratch an itch, etc., down through the millions of conceivable things that a person might have the right to do? The present bill of rights uses a pattern of providing a short list of permitted acts -- speech, religion, assembly, petition -- but no general principle -- and thereby leaves the impression that whatever isn't on that short list of permitted things can be considered a crime.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject:

400,000 Americans are in currently prison for smoking marijuana

is this true?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject:

I've seen that in the news several times over the years, but if it really turns out to round downward to 300,000 then I'm not swearing to the number. Also, 600,000 are arrested each year in the U.S. for possession of marijuana. norml.org often has information about it.

"... with liberty and justice for all!"

Pfffft!
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 11 Mar 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject:

For the next several days, I expect to be gone most of the time. (In my absense, I appoint the tin man, by virtue of his new heart.)
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davesearles
PostPosted: 17 Mar 2007 02:33 pm    Post subject:

of course - a happy st. patrick's day to the greenman

dave
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 18 Mar 2007 01:17 am    Post subject:

And a Happy St. Patty's to both of you hearth and home. Hi Ho the derry oh, there's whisky in the jar-o. Cool

JT
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Mar 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject:

what the heck is this?

quoting from 'Hudson River Valley Heritage' site at http://www.hrvh.org/collections/inst-intro.htm?inst=9 -- "1924 Walter Steinhilber, a painter, illustrator, and later Socialist Labor Party candidate, built an eighty-foot long, sixty-foot tall, sailing vessel called the Ark Royal. Steinhilber played the pirate chief who kidnapped and later won over the princess. The ship was burned at the end of the performance, to the amazement of the audience."

quoting from http://www.newpaltz.edu/museum/exhibitions/maverick/maverick%20export/WebPage-Full.00018.html -- "Walter Steinhilber, creator and producer of the Ark Royale, 1924" -- (see the funny guy wearing the funny costume in the funny photograph on that page)
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2007 06:54 am    Post subject:

I'm going to take a sabbatical from the internet to persue a few personal interests, fix the car and house through the Spring and Summer. I will be back. I do have a lot of De Leon, Marx and Engles PDF files to read. Very Happy
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Apr 2007 08:26 pm    Post subject:

Mike when you wrote about deleon it made me thik of the good old days when I used to hang out in one of the bungaloe colonies in Dutchess juction. Had a pot smoking partner named Carl Rutz I think. I would be babbling on and on about DeLeon and he would jump up and yell in glee: Who the hell are you talking about?? Ponce???!!!
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Apr 2007 09:08 am    Post subject:

Yeah, and just like Ponce, the correct pronunciation of the last name is "day lay OWN." I've never heard anyone in the SLP pronounce it correctly. I never pronounce it correctly either, even after four years of Spanish in school.

A peeve of mine, Americanizing pronunciations of names. Amarrillo, Texas, with the L's incorrectly pronounced like English L's. What, do people in the U.S. have mouths that are incapable of saying "Ah mah REE yo"? Rio Grande is pronounced like "ree oh GRON day." Los Angeles is pronounced like "loss ON hay lace." Are people's mouths broken, and they can say that? And yet, they would never do that with French. Americans are careful to correctly pronounce the French name of every little thing in the kitchen pantry, lest they appear ignorant.

Americanizing the spellings of names is even more of a travesty. Friedrich Engels. Once I called him Frederick during a conversation with a coworker who came from Germany. Boy, did I get yelled at for that.

I wrote a "Letter to the People" in 1985 and told them I consider it an insult to change the spelling of international people's names to conform to U.S. expectations, so they should start writing Friedrich Engels. (They haven't acknowledged receiving my letter yet, but it's only been 22 years since I sent it, so I'll give them a little more time.)
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questing
PostPosted: 03 Apr 2007 03:16 pm    Post subject:

The Greenman wrote:
And a Happy St. Patty's to both of you hearth and home. Hi Ho the derry oh, there's whisky in the jar-o. Cool

JT


Actually, it's "Wack far the daddy-O..."


Going over the western kerry mountains... Wink
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davesearles
PostPosted: 04 Apr 2007 10:03 am    Post subject:

Speaking of things Irish, did anyone ever see the movie "Into the West?"

Geat great flick.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 04 Apr 2007 10:08 am    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

A peeve of mine, Americanizing pronunciations of names. Amarrillo, Texas, with the L's incorrectly pronounced like English L's. What, do people in the U.S. have mouths that are incapable of saying "Ah mah REE yo"? Rio Grande is pronounced like "ree oh GRON day." Los Angeles is pronounced like "loss ON hay lace." Are people's mouths broken, and they can say that? And yet, they would never do that with French. Americans are careful to correctly pronounce the French name of every little thing in the kitchen pantry, lest they appear ignorant.

Americanizing the spellings of names is even more of a travesty. Friedrich Engels. Once I called him Frederick during a conversation with a coworker who came from Germany. Boy, did I get yelled at for that.

dave writes:

We are products of our times and place.

I am sorry to say that if I know any word that would be understandable beyond our borders it's becuase that word has entered into the the American idiom.

For neither foreign language or playing a musical instrument do I have what they used to call aptitude.

I barely understand this language. During English class I had very little idea as to what was going on. First train wreck of my educational career putting accents on words. So fucking arbitrary. "Say the word and listen to what syllable gets stressed." Duh!! Also is a word like "fire" one syllable or two? The dictionary pronunciation says one. I hear and say two, especially when the word is said with any sense of urgency.

Almost like the word bare. When you combine it with another word like bare ass I hear and say one syllable, but when said alone it becomes two almost like the name of the aspirin. This is decidedly more pronounced in New England.

Consequently I gave up all hope of ever even trying to figure that non-sense out.

As to pronunciations of place nems though I do know that they are very localized.

Houston Street in NYC: house ton. I used to think that it was an upperclass affectation to avoid saying the name of a city in Texas but actually it was "house ton" before Sam of Virginia wandered on south, even before Sam was born probably.

dave
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davesearles
PostPosted: 16 Apr 2007 12:40 am    Post subject:

The moon orbits the earth. The Earth is inclined on its axis so that as the Earth orbits the sun, the sun and the plane of the Earth's equator coincide on the two days of the equinoxes.

Is the orbit of the moon on the same plane as the earth's equator or on the same plane of the earth's orbit around the sun?

In other words, does the moon rise and set at the same relative position on the horizon all of the time or does it track north and south with the sun?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 16 Apr 2007 07:33 am    Post subject:

The earth-moon revolution is almost in the plane of the earth-sun revolution, about five degrees off. The earth's tilt is a lot bigger than that.

Since all these worlds originally coalesced out of the same accretion disk of dust and gas, and since angular momentum is conserved, all planets, moons and meteoroids in the solar system move in (approximately) the same plane, which is called the ecliptic. The exception is the Kuiper Belt, which is a band of thousands of ice balls, including Pluto and its moon Charon, that makes an obvious angle with the ecliptic.

Actually, the plane of the earth's equator changes; in other words, the axis through the poles wobbles (precesses). In our own time, that earth's axis points to the star Polaris (the end of the handle of the Little Dipper), which is why it's the "north star", the only star that's always in the same place in the sky, every hour of the night, and every night of the year. The wobble of the axis goes around in a circle with a period of something like 60,000 years.

There's no apparent pattern to angles of planetary axes. These angles were randomied by off-center collisions, like billiard balls that move crazy after they collide off-center. Uranus rotates completely sideways, "rolling" on its equator as it revolves around the sun.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 16 Apr 2007 07:41 am    Post subject:

You know what's really neat - Jupiter's moon Io. It's almost entirely made of sulfur, inside and outside. A completely yellow world except for the red and black speckles from a little bit of impurities and oxides. It's the only other volcanically active world in the solar system besides the earth. It's so volcanically active that all of the locations and sizes of the mountains and valleys change almost every day. The volcanoes shoot out lava of molten sulfur. Gravity is so small that the lava shoots hundreds of miles into the sky. Now, is that neat or what?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject:

So the moon rises and sets more north and south on the horizon as the change in the seasons? What is off 5 degrees? the plane of the earth sun revolution and the plane of the moon earth revolution? What would the totallity of that of that be at the horizon? The disk of either the sun or the moon as measured at the earths surface both are the same apparent size. they both appear to be about the size of a dime held at arm's length from your eyes. About a half of a degree as I recall. Then can the moon set approximately 10 apparent moon diameters either north or south of the sun. Or can it be more? I'm thinking more. It seems like many times more.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject:

"What is off 5 degrees?" -- The angle of the moon's path around the earth compared to the plane that contains the sun and all of the planets. It's just a trivium that I remember, but I don't know what the total effect that we see is. I notice where the sun's arc in the sky is, but I never even looked to notice the moon's path. It seems to be all over the place. The earth's tilt also figures into it somehow. Two tilted rotating balls revolving around each other as the pair of them revolves around another ball: isn't that about four relative angles? Ow, that makes my head hurt.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 20 Apr 2007 09:05 am    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

I notice where the sun's arc in the sky is, but I never even looked to notice the moon's path. It seems to be all over the place. The earth's tilt also figures into it somehow. Two tilted rotating balls revolving around each other as the pair of them revolves around another ball: isn't that about four relative angles? Ow, that makes my head hurt.

dave writes:

It seems like that to me as well, but I am trying to understand why.

I'll have to see if I can dig it up. But what you seem to be saying is that the plane of the Earth's orbit around the Sun and the plane of the Moon's orbit around the Earth are 5 deg. to one another perpenduclar to their line of intersection I suppose. If the planes are so close why does the moon seem to be all over the place and not the sun. I must ponder this, or is it an illusion like the apparent sixe of the moon at the horizon compared with overhead?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2007 12:23 am    Post subject:

I hope the solar system's grievance committee doesn't bring me up on charges for suggesting this, but -- maybe the answer might pop up if you go to wikipedia and search on the word "moon"....
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2007 01:29 am    Post subject:

Okay, let's try this, to see if it makes sense.

The rotation of the earth is the only obvious motion that produces the daily path of the sun across the sky. The earth's revolution of the sun also changes it, but not noticably from one day to the next. Noticably only if you check back in a few weeks or months.

The path of the moon across our sky is a superposition of two relatively short-period cycles - the earth rotating, and the moon revolving around the earth. So the path changes more noticably from one day to the next.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject:

di you see the moon last evening. The cresent with the earth glowed rest of the moon? It's called the old moon in the arms of the new.

I never realized the relationship of the phase of the moon to the time of day we see it.

The moon rises and sets about 50 minutes later every day. A full moon rises as the sun sets, and as it wanes it rises about 50 minutes nearer to sunrise so when you see the moon rise after sunset it is a waning moon. When the moon sets after sunset it is a waxing moon.

my wife told me this. If you see a cresent moon draw an imaginary line from the lower horn to the upper horn and a little bit beyond. If it forms the lower case "b" the moon is being born. If it forms the letter "d" it is dying. You will only see the dying moon near sunrise.

I have to ponder what you say, may a chapter somewhere on nautical navigation would explain it better.

Have you ever read the book "longtitude"? It's about a contest set up by perhaps the English govt. to see who could come up with a devise by which to derive the observer's latitude.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2007 07:36 pm    Post subject:

"a contest set up by perhaps the English govt. to see who could come up with a devise by which to derive the observer's latitude" -- No, _longitude_. Latitude is the easy one. Just wait until the sun is the highest it's going to get for the day, and that has to be noon, then take a look at the sun through a sextant, read off that angle, look up that angle and the calendar date on a chart, and the chart tells you the latitude. Longitude is much harder, because it required knowing the time difference between noon where you are now and noon back home, and clocks were too inaccurate to maintain knowledge of when is it noon back home. So they offered a prize to inspire someone to invent a clock that would merely gain or lose a few minutes during a long trip, instead of gaining or losing a few hours.

There's that old materialist conception of history. Nothing spurs the development of science as fast as when industry needs it. Once traders need to navigate, or land sales need to be surveyed, now the advances in astronomy and mathematics really take off.

The book "Longitude" by Dava Sobel, I never read it, but I'm familiar with the author's style. I reviewed her book "Galileo's Daughter" in great detail for my science books web pages - http://www.crimsonbird.com/history/galileos-daughter.htm .
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davesearles
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 03:37 am    Post subject:

yes I meant longtitude. Time keeping devices were neck and neck in the race with devices that could accurately enough discern the phase of the moon enough to be able discern "universal" time by it.

The clock guy, once he figured out that larger sized time pieces were not the way to go. made pretty good headway.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 10:36 am    Post subject:

They got stuck on the idea that they had to use a pendulum, and the swaying of a ship changes its frequency. Then someone realized that a spring also has a natural frequency, in fact, any time the force that restores a displacement to its central position is linearly proportional to the displacement, the mathematical solution is a sine wave. Once you have that, you have a clock.

Grrr! The SLP, when producing literature in PDF format, often sets the option to disable text-select-and-copy with a password lock. Why would they do that? To quote from their literature I have to capture screens to image files and then OCR them.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 10:50 am    Post subject:

a mass bouncing on a spring:

radian frequency omega = 2 pi f
in terms of spring constant k and mass m:
omega = sqrt (k/m)

derivation:

Newton's second law: F=ma = m x''
Hooke's law: restoring force F=-kx
therefore ma = -kx

assume sinusoidal solution: x = sin omega t
differentiate twice: x' = omega cos omega t; x'' = - omega^2 sin omega t
substitute into ma = -kx: m (- omega^2 sin omega t) = -k (sin omega t)
cancel the sin omega t and the "-": omega^2 m = k
solved: omega = sqrt (k/m)
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davesearles
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 01:03 pm    Post subject:

mike wrote:

Grrr! The SLP, when producing literature in PDF format, often sets the option to disable text-select-and-copy with a password lock. Why would they do that? To quote from their literature I have to capture screens to image files and then OCR them.

dave writes:

I have not found that. Do you have the latest acrobat reader?

Send me the link of a pdf from them that you have had probs with and I will see if I have the same.

dave
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davesearles
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 01:08 pm    Post subject:

Even with a spring, they figured that the most accurate stationary clockes were large clock so they treid to make them big. The larger they got, the closer they got to the natural frequencyies of the ship rolling and tossing in the water so thise motions would interfere. By going smaller and smaller the effect of ship movements were minimized.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 02:01 pm    Post subject:

I have 33 gb for my main drive. It is about full and I have no idea what is
on there that I can delete. I have gone throught the add delete programs
and taken off the obvious ones that I don't need but there seems to be a
whole lot more than the total of the program files on the disk. I went to staples to see
if there was a program that helped to identify files that could safely be
deleted or moved to another disk. Not much help. Most of what comes under
disk clean nowadays is to wipe your disk so no one else can read the files,
but not much on actual managmanet. I do go to disk clean on the system tools and
do all of the chores there, to little effect. I could get a larger hard
drive but I suspect that it wouldn't be that long before I had the same
problems but on a larger scale. What to do??

thanks
dave
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 08:02 pm    Post subject:

Now I think what I said about the clock spring is irrelevant. Clocks don't use springs for oscillation, do they? I think they use them to take off elastic potential energy a little bit at a time by means of a ratchet.

Computer disk. If you want to delete something but not sure if it's safe, one strategy is to rename it and then let it sit there for a while. Old name software-utility, new name junk-backup-today's-date-software-utility. Go a few months without any problems? Then you can probably delete it. Other method - move it to a CD, in a directory of its own, make a read-me.txt file to remind yourself where it originally was: "the folder 'junk' on this cd was originally at location c:/windows/my program files/horseshit . Moved to cd on today's-date.

Now, as long as you don't do that to the files needed to boot-up, okay. How do you know if you need the files to boot up? This isn't completely safe, but a partial answer to that: look at the folder in 'my computer' and click view-details. This displays the file date. How old is the file? When was the computer purchased? Does the date tell you that the computer came with the file, or perhaps it got added years later. If you have automatic update turned on, even a file with a new date could be a system file, so there is still some danger. But don't touch files or olders where the date shows that it was there when the computer was first manufactured. Exception - folders named 'prodigy' or 'america online', etc. - I just say a few curse words and then delete them.

Are you familiar with your startup routines? In most cases you click start - run - type the word msconfig, hit enter, click startup. The checked boxes are the programs that load automatically when you boot. I see some Epson stuff, even thought I threw out my Epson printer years ago. That warns me that I probably have some junk on the disk, so I use search to find Epson, or see if the 'program files' directory has a subdirectory named epson.

Are you familiar with the registry? You can go into the registry editor just to look, not changing anything, because changing something can be dangerous if you don't know the effects. click start, run, type the word regedit, click enter. Open the folder named hkey_current_user. under that, open the folder named software. do NOT touch the delete key on your keyboard. See a bunch of brand names? I see adobe, canon, macromedia, etc. Also some brand names I don't recognize, which could mean that some spyware has gotten in there somehow.

One final thing. Now I'm looking in the directory c:\Documents and Settings\Lepore\Local Settings. It has subdirectories named "temp" and "temporary internet files." They didn't show up in 'my computer' at first because they are system folders, but i make them show by going into the 'local settings' folder, click tools, folder options, view, and checking the box 'show hidden files and folders.' Now these two folders show up in 'my computer'. I look at what files are in them. I see that the cleanup routine in system tools has failed to clean up the files in these temp directories. how do i know? click on the 'last modified' column header to sort by dates. I see a file "Walmart' and it's date is 2004. Hmm, my wife and kids must have been shopping online at walmart. I know I have done cleanups since then. The cleanup failed to remove this junk. I delete all such files. These temp directories only have cache purposes and are never essential.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject:

I'm also using a USB external hard drive now. But only for backup of my c: drive, and also my daughter's computer's c: drive, not for offloading things that we want to save. The external drive was under $100 for about 180 Gbytes. I have spent so more than that on CD-RW's which have soft surfaces and only worked a few times before they became defective and I had to throw them away. The drive isn't super-fast, and it takes about four hours to copy the whole c: drive, so I drag everything from c: to e:, watch it start copying, and go away somewhere.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject:

duh!! I found a 14 gb video file on the drive. Do you think that had anything to do with my problem?

dave
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Apr 2007 06:46 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
mike wrote:

Grrr! The SLP, when producing literature in PDF format, often sets the option to disable text-select-and-copy with a password lock. Why would they do that? To quote from their literature I have to capture screens to image files and then OCR them.

dave writes:
I have not found that. Do you have the latest acrobat reader?
Send me the link of a pdf from them that you have had probs with and I will see if I have the same.
dave


For example, just one of many, are you able to select the text in the following (nine page) file? I can't. The file properties shows that selecting text is disallowed by password.

http://slp.org/pdf/others/high_tech.pdf
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davesearles
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2007 11:34 am    Post subject:

I don't remember if I had posted this before or not, that I have started a yahoo discussion group to discuss Marx' Value Price and Profit. dave



http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Marx-ValuePriceProfit/
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2007 04:19 pm    Post subject:

I posted something in the new yahoo group last night.

Hey, you know what my web site needs? A feature on SLP history entitled "Embarrassing Moments". Let's see what it could cover. Petersen ravings about the greatness of the Bolshevik government. The expulsion of that dangerous renegade Nathan Pressman. The decision to take a stand against the war in Vietnam ... I mean the part about the war ending in 1973, and deciding to publicly take that anti-war stand around 1977. What else?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 29 Apr 2007 07:55 pm    Post subject:

Some New De Leon editorials added to the site today:
http://www.deleonism.org/deleon-editorials.htm

Including [and why I chose them] ...

Uncle Sam and Brother Jonathan
one of those where De Leon point out that, sure, the capitalist works, in the same sense that a pickpocket works.

Father Gassioniana #19
I selected this because people say that nobody forces the worker to work for the capitalist. Explains that the force is in the nature of the age's tools: He says, "Toolless Man being the slave of Nature, it follows that the tool having come into existence, the toolless individual becomes the slave of the tool-holding individual."

"It Won't Happen"
Some speculation about whether a socialist society would have inheritance.

"Impregnable Socialism"
About the Law of Value.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 May 2007 09:12 pm    Post subject:

Dave, for example, the pdf version of 'Two Pages from Roman History.'

http://slp.org/pdf/de_leon/ddlother/two_pages.pdf

Can you do either a save as txt or an edit > select all > copy? I can't do it. Adobe reader says: File > Document Properties ... Content copying or extraction: not allowed ... Security method: password
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davesearles
PostPosted: 03 May 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject:

I didn't realize that they would not set it up so that it could be quoted. Have you notified them? Anyway, ocr it or get a pdf to text freeware program

http://www.tucows.com/preview/402625
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 May 2007 03:17 pm    Post subject:

Okay, I just downloaded that tucows freeware, and maybe in a couple days I'll get around to trying it.

As for notifying them, not in so many words, but sort of. When the National Secretary has suggested to me, why don't I just point all my links to literature to the SLP site, I told him it's because I like to be able to copy quotations, so therefore I'm converting my own files to plain text.

You said 'notify' as if to wonder if they knew about it. It never even occurred to me that they might not know. I had assumed it was a policy intended to prevent modified versions from getting into distribution.

To tell the truth, I do make some modifications. After scanning some transcripts of four of De Leon's public addresses, I deleted the bracked comments like [applause] and [laughter], because including them looks embarrassingly amateurish, and it's it's not part of what the speaker said.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 04 May 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject:

In the future I intend to add more features about the history of the socialist movement.

I just added a long article -- Arnold Petersen, The Soil and Roots of the Socialist Labor Party (1940).
http://www.deleonism.org/cgi-bin/text.cgi?j=hd000003

Some crap in there, as he goes on and on about the politics of the Catholic Church, much of which is either irrelevant to the subject or could have been better presented with just a few concise sentences.

I added the article for the info about the old Socialistic with the -ic Labor Party.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 07 May 2007 05:07 pm    Post subject:

Mike and Dave,

I am at the library again. My computer broke and so did my car--the wheel hub fell off while changing the brakes. The car came first for repairs and I will be on-line later on.

John T
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 07 May 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject:

John, you just can't stay away because I'm so adorable.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 12 May 2007 01:30 am    Post subject:

What? Shocked Actually, I can't stay away since I learned a lot here. You and Dave have been great in answering questions that I have asked. Cool
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davesearles
PostPosted: 20 May 2007 12:25 am    Post subject:

Mike a while back you came up with a neat conversion of text resulting from OCR converting from txt into HTML and then back again to take the line breaks out of it. Do you recall what it was that you proposed? I can't make it work and it worked perfectly the last time that I used it after you had suggested it.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 20 May 2007 07:22 am    Post subject:

Using notepad or wordpad, make an HTML file that can accomodate any text being inserted into it. Name the file something.htm or something.html. Display it in a browser, that is, typing the "web address" as c:\something.html , assuming it's in the root c: directory, or c:\your-folder-name\something.html if it's in a folder. Do a "select-all and copy" from the browser screen. The text without any line breaks will now be in your clipboard. "Paste" it to a new file.

Code:

<html><head><title>xxx</title></head><body>

put your text here.

</body></html>
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 20 May 2007 07:36 am    Post subject:

This should be faster, making it unnecessary to do the steps of select-copy-paste..... When looking at it in the browser, click on "file", "save as", "save as type: text file (*.txt)", file name: new-name.txt .
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 20 May 2007 07:42 am    Post subject:

If you need to do it many times, we can rig you up with a batch file to execute, to automatically insert the HTML stuff before and after the text, doing that every time you click an icon.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 29 May 2007 05:58 am    Post subject:

I think this is interesting .. Arnold Petersen representing the SLP was apparently required to give a statement to the FBI in 1964 because Lee Harvey Oswald had written to the SLP to obtain literature. This document, part of the records of the Warren Commission.

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh26/pdf/WH26_CE_3085.pdf
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davesearles
PostPosted: 29 May 2007 10:23 am    Post subject:

No "chickens coming home to roost" there.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 15 Jun 2007 08:14 am    Post subject:

I have no time to talk about socialism this week. Only enough time to follow all the forums discussing the symbolism in the last episode of The Sopranos.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 25 Jun 2007 07:36 pm    Post subject:

Announcement: The PROFILE screen has a software bug. What did I do now? If you click profile, in order to change your email address or password, set a "signature", etc., you will see a blank white screen. That's like a photograph of a polar bear eating vanilla ice cream in a snowstorm. A white screen. Until I can find the problem and fix it, the only way to change your profile is to tell me to do it for you manually.

________________________________________________


HELP ... ANSWER NEEDED QUICKLY!

Do you know anything about wood finishing?

I have to do repairs to the flooring of the porch, which is pressure treated 2X6 pine. The insurance company (followng a "replacement cost" policy) will only pay to replace the demaged boards. I told them that I want to replace all of the boards on the floor (8 feet by 40 feet) because I would never be able to get a color match between new lumber and the adjacent old lumber that has been exposed to sunlight for twenty years as well as being treated with miscellaneous wood finishes over the twenty years. Then they suggested that they will pay for sanding the entire surface, so that all of it will be the color of new lumber, then all of the boards can be given the same wood finish simultaneously. My question is, will the new and twenty-year-old lumber really match after being sanded? (Also, I'm thinking about water pressure cleaning).
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davesearles
PostPosted: 27 Jun 2007 08:50 pm    Post subject:

That's funny I was just down your way the day before yeasday and drove right up the Taconic past the exit for your pace. By the time I realized which one I should have gotten off it was to late. it was too damned hot to bother with doing anything about it so I jsy kept right on a going.

Now let me tell you just how to fix that problem:

You tear up what needs to be torn up, put down new, and then get an ice chest full of ice and put a half gallon of Jack Daniels right down in the middle of all that ice. Pull up a chair with the ice chest between you and the wood. Every 15 minutes drink one shot of Jack until you cannot see the difference between the old boards and the new. You may have to repeat this process for about three days in a row, but I guantee you after that you will not be able to notice the difference.

In truth, I would not do a damned thing but put down new boards and then when you go out, look at the new boards and not the old ones.

dave
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 27 Jun 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject:

I don't know anything about fixing the profile problem but sanding the new wood and old should have the same color. That is if the old wood is not faded too deep into the wood. Insurance companies just won't pay for entire replacements. It's a profit thing ya know.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 27 Jun 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject:

I know the software problem now. On all of my domains, which share the same reseller account on one hosting company, (some) php files have lost their ability to detect parameter in url's. For example, if the url is program-name.php?xx=5 then when the program runs the variable named $xx should have the value 5. It still works for perl programs but now fails for (some) php programs. I reported it to the owner of the server.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 27 Jun 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject:

You know that old joke about cutting hair, take a little more off the left side, then you have to take a little more off the right side, repeat until the person has no hair. I'm afraid I'll start doing that with wood stain. If one set of boards is too light and so I stain it, then it's too dark so I stain the other boards, then that's too dark so I add more stain to the first set of boards, and I keep repeating the process until all of the wood is black.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject:

I think I finally fixed the problem with the "Profile" link.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Jul 2007 12:13 am    Post subject:

This month we celebrate the 60th anniversary of the July 1947 flying saucer crash in Roswell, New Mexico.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Sep 2007 12:27 am    Post subject:

On October 4, 1957 - the 50th anniversary of the launch of Sputnik 1, the first artificial satellite.

(It will also be my daughter Darcy's 19th birthday.)
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Nov 2007 09:47 pm    Post subject:

My computer is in the repair shop. I'm on my teenage daughter's computer right now, but it's not convenient. I may be able to check in here a few times before I get my own machine back, but no guarantee.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Dec 2007 04:56 pm    Post subject:

Dave, did you see the revleft members discussing how much they hate the way you won't use the "quote" button?

http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=73535
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Dec 2007 05:03 pm    Post subject:

My shopping list for getting my snowblower ready for the next few snowstorms:

vodka
rum
scotch
sambuca
peppermint schnapps
root beer schnapps
cinnamon schnapps
replacement auger axle bolt
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Dec 2007 06:35 pm    Post subject:

That puts you right on completion schedule for mid-May. You old rascle, I know you too well.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2008 01:45 am    Post subject:

Before I forget, let me wish you people a happy National Gorilla Suit Day (January 31).

[Created in 1964 by Don Martin writing for MAD magazine]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=national+gorilla+suit+day
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2008 05:40 pm    Post subject:

How about that Jerry Springer show? When the woman in the raccoon costume was fistfighting with the woman in the alligator costume over the affections of the man in the dolphin costume, they kept crashing into the the juggler and making him drop all of his dishes.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 11 Jan 2008 08:34 am    Post subject:

Mike's diary --

What things did I buy today from Williams' Lumber Store?

Makita cordless drill, $119.99
6-inch Phillips driver bit, $5.99
5-gallon gasoline can, $16.99
hex nuts 1/4-20, quantity 12, 35 cents each
stop nuts 1/4-20, quantity 12, 12 cents each
70W spiral fluorescent bulbs,5-pack, $12.99
4-pack, 60W incandescent bulbs, $1.79
65 W indoor flood lamps, quantity 4, $2.99 each
12-pack, kitchen cabinet shelf brackets, $2.99
aluminum/vinyl door weather strip, $5.99

Observation: Although the digit "9" appeared in the prices too frequently to be explained by chance, and although price fixing is a felony, the police did not make any arrests.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 22 Jan 2008 08:49 pm    Post subject:

Mike,

Is there a way to download all of the pdf files from a certain directory on the net?

http://humanservices.vermont.gov/boards-committees/hsb/decisions/FH-10002%20Order.pdf

Is there a way to download:

"http://humanservices.vermont.gov/boards-committees/hsb/decisions/FH-*Order.pdf"?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Jan 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject:

I could easily write you a dos batch file that would do it. I would also have to include a little utility program called graburl.exe that can download any file from anywhere, size 34K.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 22 Jan 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject:

If you could do that I would highly appeciate it.

Also, it looks like at the SLP myspace page that they took down the ability to post new topiscs. I looked to post a new one after posting one last week and don't see the option available.

Thank you.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 23 Jan 2008 05:58 am    Post subject:

http://www.mathmistakes.com

interesting site
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 23 Jan 2008 06:17 am    Post subject:

Okay, this will download all 2,155 pdf files in that web location.

This can't be used as-is on any other directory because it includes only the specific file names for this directory. In other words, there's no "wild card" asterisk character available.

Make a new empty directory on your own machine for these items.

Download the following three files by clicking the right mouse button and then and selecting "save target as" for each of these three lines:

http://www.deleonism.org/temp/dave.bat
http://www.deleonism.org/temp/test.bat
http://www.deleonism.org/temp/graburl.exe

On your machine, go into that directory with windows explorer.

Double-click on test.bat . This will download only the first three pdf files as a test to verify that the method works.

Did three new pdf documents just appear in windows explorer? Does clicking them makes the documents display correctly in the pdf reader? If so, the method works. Then you can go ahead download everything.

Double-click on dave.bat
That will download all 2,155 files.

(You may also want to save a copy of graburl.exe in a permanent place because you may find it useful for lots of things in the future. It allows your machine to download anything on the web, whether it's file type txt htm gif jpg pdf mov mp3 or any other, as long as the webmaster didn't set the permissions to block the action.)
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 23 Jan 2008 06:44 am    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
http://www.mathmistakes.com

interesting site


None of his links work for me. I get redirected to something irrelevant.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 23 Jan 2008 09:44 pm    Post subject:

Try this link instead of the math mistakes link I gave


http://members.cox.net/mathmistakes/glossary1.htm

YES the program worked jst fine. I was able to find the info that I was looking for.

Thank you.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2008 02:36 am    Post subject:

I'm a good computer hacker, huh? I was just looking at Norad's launch codes for the nuclear missiles. Is that all the president is required to do?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2008 02:56 am    Post subject:

The star Serius, to find it go to the constallation Orion and then it's slightly down and to the left. Serius is the brightest star in the sky. Saying this confuses some people because Venus is the brightest object in sky (after the sun and moon, of course). But Venus is a planet and not a star. Damn, I miss smoking the pipe the most after I've had a few drinks. I'm going to stick to my vow to avoid smoking, but I can definitely feel the sacrifice. And that reminds me of a joke ....
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2008 03:08 am    Post subject:

A monk joins monestery where they take a vow of silence. They're allowed to say just two words every seven years. For seven years, he doesn't say a word. Then the headmaster of the monestery calls him into the office and tells him that he may say two words. He says "bad food." The boss says, "Okay, I'll look into that. No promises." Not a word is spoken for the next seven years. After the monk has been there for a total of fourteen years, the boss tells him that he can say two more words. He says, "Cold floor." The boss replies," Um, okay, I'll report that cold floor thing, not sure if they can do anything about it, but thanks." Then not another word is spoken for the next seven years. In the monk's twenty-first year at the monestery, the boss tells him that he may say two words. The monk says, "I quit." The boss says, "So, you're quitting, eh? Well, I''m not surprised. Ever since you got here, you've done nothing but complain."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2008 03:21 am    Post subject:

So you remember my old mountain hikin' and campin' buddy Bryce, I just found out that he retired after being the head of the mathematics department at the New York Military Academy for twenty years, and then he started a new position with the mathematics department at Marist College. The rapport I always had with Bryce was unusual in that we didn't agree about social issues so much, and he thought my socialism was nuts, but we shared a strange selection of topics, like conversing about the ancient Greek playwright Sophocles.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2008 04:53 am    Post subject:

A thousand thanks, "mil gracias", for the pointer to http://members.cox.net/mathmistakes/glossary1.htm. Yes, there's a lot there to chew on.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2008 02:02 pm    Post subject:

Mike I tried to set up a new account as a test of the latest procedures. All went fine, I typed in the access code and got a message that the activation link was being emailed to me at my yahoo address. I have waited several minutes and nothing has come in so far. I will check it later today.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2008 02:58 pm    Post subject:

an hour later still nothing
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2008 06:46 pm    Post subject:

Let's give it more time. Let me know. If it never comes please try another name. It's possible that my host had a rare failure for a few seconds.

Unfortunately it doesn't keep a record of the mailing of the confirmation request. Nothing logged out that I can look at.

Using another browser I registered a test account and received the confirmation request a few seconds.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2008 05:50 pm    Post subject:

I tested it two more times. I can't see any problem with it.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject:

maybe it didn't like sending to an existing emal address. I will check it some other time. Thanks, Dave.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 07 Feb 2008 04:25 pm    Post subject:

I'm multitasking: watching the preparations for the shuttle launch at www.nasa.gov [one of the few web sites where typing the www is required], on TV the movie Gun Street [1961], figuring out the chords to Sweet Betsy From Pike on my daughter's electric piano, and watching the beautiful ice storm out the window, with long ice droopies hanging from the needles of the fir trees.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Feb 2008 03:41 pm    Post subject:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/4-sweet-betsy-from-pike/1449419939
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 08 Feb 2008 03:41 pm    Post subject:

I am not trying to avoid being here but one thing I am trying to do is get people interested in this website and discussion. It's really ironic that people would rather talk about what movie or rock star did or said rather than discussing social change or socialism.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Feb 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject:

I've done nothing to promote this site. I've never distributed any announcements. If I wasn't so lazy we would probably have a big gang here.

You oughta hear me play that song with the electric keyboard on the "pipe organ" setting.

Now that's a total of three songs I can play on the piano: The Internationale, Nantucket Sleighride, and Sweet Betsy From Pike.

Here's a trivia question. See if you guys know the answer without looking it up. When a space flight lifts off from Cape Canaveral, after its tail end gets away from the launch pad tower, why does the guy with the microphone always say "tower clear", "we have cleared the tower", or something like that? I know the real answer.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Feb 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject:

I was informed that a new documentary film about Pete Seeger is scheduled to be aired on PBS on the night of February 27.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2008 03:42 pm    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

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Here's a trivia question. See if you guys know the answer without looking it up. When a space flight lifts off from Cape Canaveral, after its tail end gets away from the launch pad tower, why does the guy with the microphone always say "tower clear", "we have cleared the tower", or something like that? I know the real answer.


I have no idea whatsoever. I know the tower pulls away but why would the announcer say. "We have cleared the tower."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2008 04:22 pm    Post subject:

I will now reveal the answer to my trivia question.

The job of the people who work at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida goes up to the point when the engines have started properly and the vehicle leaves the launch pad. When they guy says it has cleared the tower, the job of the people in Florida is done. At that moment, the entire responsibility is switched over to the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas.

Kinda like when the political mandate for socialism marks the end of control of industry by the capitalist corporations and the beginning of control by the workers' organizations.

Maybe Dave's proposed amendment should just say, "We have cleared the tower!"
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2008 04:30 pm    Post subject:

I just notice strange connections. Did you ever notice -- Betethoven's 5th symphony begins "dit dit dit dahhhhhh", and that sound of three short tones followed by one long tone is the Morse code for the letter V, and V is the Roman numeral for 5. I was about ten years old when I noticed that. Creepy, huh?
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2008 04:39 pm    Post subject:

I did not know that and that was interesting to learn. I've been over at Noahide Nations forum since I am a Noahide:

http://www.noahidenations.com/content/index.php

They got more people that post than here but yet no one posts that often. The forum will sit for months without a post. I made a bunch of post there. Some deal with the SIU and others relating to topics at hand. I've been getting a few responses. Let's see what happens. Very Happy

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 10 Feb 2008 09:10 am    Post subject:

What is Noahide -- religious theory?
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 11 Feb 2008 03:14 pm    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

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What is Noahide -- religious theory?


It's not about theory but its about Seven Instructions which were given to Noah after he and his family left the ark. This is called the Covenant of Bnei Noah. These instruction are binding on all Gentiles--non Jews--and still in effect per Judaism. The Seven Instructions are...
1. BELIEF IN G-D. Do not worship Idols
2. RESPECT G-D AND PRAISE HIM. Do Not Blaspheme His Name
3. RESPECT HUMAN LIFE. Do Not Murder
4. RESPECT THE FAMILY. Do Not Commit Immoral Sexual Acts
5. RESPECT FOR OTHERS’ RIGHTS AND PROPERTY. Do Not Steal
6. CREATION OF A JUDICIAL SYSTEM. Pursue Justice
7. RESPECT ALL CREATURES. Do not be cruel to animals.

Noahide is just a name given to those Gentiles who observe these instructions. Maimonides (RamBam) states "Whoever among the Nations fulfills the Seven Commandments to serve God belongs to the Righteous among the Nations, and has his share in the World to Come." This is about how we live and treat each other which includes nature and animals upon this earth. It's not about pie in the sky.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 11 Feb 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject:

Is Noahide a particular religious group, the same way we could speak of Hasidic or Lutheran, etc.? What's the word -- denomination?
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 12 Feb 2008 02:02 pm    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

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Is Noahide a particular religious group, the same way we could speak of Hasidic or Lutheran, etc.? What's the word -- denomination?


No, Noahides are not a denomination like Lutheran or Baptist. Noahides, from the time of Noah, has existed being observant of the Seven Instructions. Today's Noahides would attend a Synagogue to be instructed as to what those Seven Instruction would mean since Bnei Noah are accepted and to be instructed by Rabbi's. I don't think it would matter what denomination of Judaism a Noahide seeks instruction from because the individual Gentile would not be affected by those differences since Noahides don't practice Judaism.

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Non-Jews who (1) reject all idolatrous ideas and accept the kingship of the One G-d, (2) accept the priesthood of the Jewish people as the guardians and teachers of Torah, and (3) commit to following the Seven Noahide Laws as revealed in the Oral Torah from Mt. Sinai are "Hasidic Gentiles" or "Noahides." The term "Hasidic Gentile" is derived from a classic commentary by the Rambam, Rav Moshe ben Maimon (Maimonides), in The Laws of Kings 8:11:

"Anyone who accepts upon himself the fulfillment of these Seven Mitzvos [commandments] and is precise in their observance is considered one of the hasidei umos ha'olam ["Hasidim of the nations of the world"] and will merit a share in the World to Come."

The Seven Noahide Laws are the minimal observance for non-Jews. The source of these laws and the basis of their understanding is the Oral Torah, which G-d gave to the Jewish people at Mount Sinai along with His Written Law. By learning from the Jews and performing the mitzvos, non-Jews have a crucial role in G-d's Creation.


John
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 12 Feb 2008 08:09 pm    Post subject:

Is this your own guide to action? Are you cautious to refrain from worshipping idols and so forth, by keeping the list of laws in mind?
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 13 Feb 2008 04:00 pm    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

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Is this your own guide to action? Are you cautious to refrain from worshiping idols and so forth, by keeping the list of laws in mind?


More like a guide to personal living. It's nice you are asking questions. The Jews have 613 Instructions to follow while Gentiles, when they come to know it, Seven though they might add a few more under the instruction of a Rabbi. That would be their personal choice. Being Noahide is not the same as being Jewish and we are not suppose to convert to Judaism though some might chose to.


Regarding idolatry here is an off site quote for clarification--The essence of the Seven Universal Laws is the prohibition against idolatry. One who worships another deity besides the Creator denies the essence of religion and rejects the entirety of the Seven Universal Laws.

Torah and the Rabbi's would include Jesus, Zeus, Perun, Venus, Dagda, Briget, et al.

Off site quote--But one who guards himself against idolatry demonstrates belief in God and affirms the entirety of the Seven Universal Laws. The generations that lived immediately after Adam recognized that God had created magnificent heavenly beings, the sun to rule by day and the moon to rule by night. And these people began to honor God's exalted messengers. Soon it was forgotten that these messengers had been appointed by the Creator, and the sun and the moon began to be honored for their own greatness.

John T.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 05:43 am    Post subject:

but then you could ask, is the "creator" that is being worshiped simply the messenger of another creator, and so on. Definitional religions by their very nature are subject to logical flaw - is it a (the) deity that is being exaulted or the definitional system? But whatever floats a person's boat pretty much is fine by me for that person.

Dave
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 01:02 pm    Post subject:

Interesting point Dave but the Jews and other monotheist would say that there is no other creator. Messengers are just messengers and that all that we see, hear, taste, and touch are nothing more than messages received. The belief is that G-d is formless and lives outside of space and time which is what they believe hence no image of Him could be created and worshiped. Another interesting thing is that most people have the idea that we were fashioned after G-d's personage. In Judaism He is actually formless. The say that man's human form was based on the angel's form which come in a variety different shapes. What does it mean that we are created in G-d's image. This is the best answer that I found...
The statement that we are created in the image of G‑d means that we were formed as a reflection of His G‑dly attributes and characteristics. This cannot be taken to mean that we literally look, feel or think like G‑d does, because He has no form and is not limited in any way. Rather we are like a one dimensional reflection of a real object.

John T.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 02:14 pm    Post subject:

John:

Interesting point Dave but the Jews and other monotheist would say that there is no other creator.

dave:

That's just it, all anyone can do is to say and to belive that what is said The worship part - is that worship of THE creator or of what appears to be a creator, or you think or belive is a creator. You never can know except that you believe (or not) so. ISTM anyway.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 02:20 pm    Post subject:

In response to a whole lot of crabbing at the socialistsunmoderated list I have set up a yahoo list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SocialistsModerated

I have it set that anyone can post but that the messages have to be individually approved by me.

Mike and Joh, would you please #1 see if you can post to the list from a non-yeahoo address. And if you can't please set up a a yahoo account foryourselves and start occassionally posting to that list.

You can look at the archives of the group so you don't have to sign up for the posts to go direcly to you address ( I think)

TY
Dave
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 03:18 pm    Post subject:

Dave wrote:

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That's just it, all anyone can do is to say and to believe that what is said The worship part - is that worship of THE creator or of what appears to be a creator, or you think or believe is a creator. You never can know except that you believe (or not) so. ISTM anyway.


True. It is really up to the individual to decide what they believe. This is why there is no seeking of converts to Judaism or to being a Noahide. Xianity and other faiths do seek to convert everyone everywhere. This is the difference.

Also Dave wrote this:

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In response to a whole lot of crabbing at the socialistsunmoderated list I have set up a yahoo list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SocialistsModerated

I have it set that anyone can post but that the messages have to be individually approved by me.

Mike and John, would you please #1 see if you can post to the list from a non-yeahoo address. And if you can't please set up a a yahoo account for yourselves and start occasionally posting to that list.

You can look at the archives of the group so you don't have to sign up for the posts to go directly to you address ( I think)


Okay, I joined the group but it looks as if its been overrun by non-socialist who have no idea what socialism is except to think that it is the government running all aspects of the economy, promoting laziness of people not to perform work and robbing the rich to give to the poor.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 07:04 pm    Post subject:

Dave, I registered just now. I have a yahoo address for posting forums, but don't email me there. You want a post but I don't have anything to say just now. You say something I'll answer it.

John, why do you say it's overrun? It says total number of posts so far: zero.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 07:21 pm    Post subject:

Oh, I'm sorry I was looking below in politics and government which has a lot of posts. I now see there is no messages. I am not use to this other than message forums. Now what to write? Shocked

John
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 14 Feb 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject:

Hmm - I don't know what that 'politics and government' thing is. It looks like random messages yanked out of somewhere else.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 15 Feb 2008 12:26 am    Post subject:

Thank you John and Mike. Mike what I was getting at is for you to try to post something to the post address from a NON yahoo account and see if it works, or does it have to be from a yahoo address?

dave
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 15 Feb 2008 06:11 pm    Post subject:

A post to a yahoo group never has to come from a yahoo address. What matters is whether the address is joined (subscribed) and whether the list is set to require the post to come from a joined address.

I think your first post to the group has those confused. First you said you want a test post from a non-joined address, then you said you want a test post from a non-yahoo address. Those are two separate things.

I don't want to post by mail because I don't want yahoo to know my primary email address, which they would automatically detect from the FROM header.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2008 11:44 am    Post subject:

I have no idea what you are talking about, joined non joined etc. But I see why you don't want to post from your primary address. I thought that you had the ability to make up a junk account?

Anyway, would you post to the list, in a non-yahoo addess if you have that ability, in a yahoo address if you don't an explaination that clears up the confusion in my post that you refer to?

Thanks,

Today is Patty and my 23rd wedding aniversery. I've neve done anything for 23 years except breathe.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2008 11:53 am    Post subject:

This is the text of a motion that I recently put before the Rutland District Court. It's just an indication of what has preoccupied my mind for the last two and one half years:

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Defendant’s Application for Declaration of Mistrial


To the Honorable William Cohen:


Violation of Right to an Attorney

In February 2007 during the course of the underlying trial I asked for a postponement in order to obtain an attorney. The court would only give me a one week postponement with the requirement that the attorney that I did obtain be ready for the resumption of the trial at the end of that one week. During that week I wrote to the court explaining the difficulty that I was having because of the court’s requirement that the attorney be trial ready at the end of the week, and requested additional postponement which the court failed to grant.

In court, at the end of the one week, I again explained my difficulty in obtaining council given the court’s requirement that any attorney that I did obtain be trial ready on that scheduled day. The court again would not grant a postponement. I was forced to proceed without an attorney during that session of court. *

Remarkably after that last session in February 2007 the court did not reschedule the remainder of the trial until August 2007, and that was for a trail date of November 15, 2007. The court then scrubbed that trail date apparently just the day before because the court had doubled booked my case with a jury trial.

It is now mid-February 2008, no trial has been held, and a case conference has been scheduled for March 20, 2008.

Two things are very inconsistent here – the court’s insistence that I have only one week to be back in court with an attorney ready at the end of that time to proceed with the remainder of the trial – and the court’s subsequent allowing the case to languish on its back burner mid-trial for almost a year.

This discrepancy very strongly suggests that in fact there was no justice directed underpinning for the court’s mandate that I return to court with a trial ready attorney in just 7 days, that it was an abuse of discretion.

In anticipation of any “waiver” argument that the prosecutor may raise: where the admonishment of the court was that I was entitled to an attorney at any stage of the proceedings – that admonishment must be taken at face value. It must be taken to mean that a defendant can waive assistance of counsel during one portion of a trial but can resurrect that right at a subsequent portion of that same trial. I invoked my right to an attorney even prior to the beginning of the defense case. The court determined that I was entitled to obtain an attorney at that point. The court could not without abusing discretion condition that right upon me showing up just 7 days later with an attorney who was trial ready for a trial in progress, especially when it was a bench trial. It would be of no matter whatsoever that I may have in fact have done a decent job during the portion of the trial that I was made to proceed without an attorney. Where the constitutional right to an attorney is concerned a showing of actual prejudice is not required. **


Violation of Right to a Reasonably Continuous Trial

The case is almost entirely a contest of memory based witnesses testimony. Even assuming that a judge as trier of fact might have the professional ability to pick up a case mid-trail after a year’s intermission – that assumption cannot apply to witnesses upon which the trial depends.

The complaining witness gave her direct testimony in December 2006, gave cross-examination testimony and defense direct testimony in February 2007. During February 2007 the prosecution had other witnesses give direct testimony which was subjected to cross examination during the same session.

After the court announced that the only additional witness that the defense would be able to call was myself, the court adjourned without date. As previously described the court in August 2007 scheduled the trial to resume November 15, 2007. But that day was bumped because there was a jury trial scheduled for the same time that did not settle. On October 23, 2007 I even wrote to the court in regard to the unnecessary delay.

If the trial did resume, defense would be presenting its witness(es) at least a full year later than the prosecution presented its witnesses. There must be at least a presumption that this one year difference between the time of the testimony of the prosecution witnesses and defense witness would be prejudicial to the defense because of reasonably expected deterioration of the clarity of recall during that time. Normally when an entire trial is delayed at least there is a balance in that the prosecution’s witnesses are subject to the same delay. That would not be the case when the court hears prosecution witnesses at one point and hears defense witnesses over a year later.

The Vermont constitution prohibits unnecessary delay. In this case there has been over a year of unnecessary delay of a trial in progress, all but one week attributable to the failure of the court the schedule a timely trial.


Conclusion

The court allowing just seven days for me to appear with an attorney ready for the resumption of the trial, one the one hand, and the court thereafter allowing the case to languish on the docket mid-trial for over a year, on the other, presents a record such that under no circumstances could a possible guilty verdict be upheld upon appeal. The only appropriate remedy at this point would be the declaration of a mistrial, which I respectfully demand


Dated February 11, 2008



David A. Searles

*During that session the court made two additional errors prejudicial to the defense:
#1 the court would not allow me to call any of the witnesses that I had subpoenaed who had already testified for the prosecution, except for the complaining witness (and that ruling was not made until after I had finished with the complaining witness). #2 the court ruled, essentially out of the blue, that when the case did resume that the defense would be able to call no more witnesses except for myself if I chose to testify.

**However I was certainly prejudiced by not knowing, as apparently a lawyer may have, that the court more than likely would not allow me to call prosecution witness as defense witnesses, or that the under the circumstances that the court would not allow me to call any additional defense witnesses other than myself.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2008 03:35 pm    Post subject:

That is a lot to worry about Dave. BTW, I have no idea what to post on the SP Moderated Forum unless you want to start off with your Constitutional Amendment and build on that. Very Happy

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 16 Feb 2008 07:12 pm    Post subject:

Dave, it's good that you can do legal work like that. Most people would have trouble just writing a business letter to Land's End about a defective shirt, and here you know how to write legal briefs and file appeals.

The most complicated thing I ever did was to be a plaintiff in Small Claims, in the case of Lepore versus {the guy's name}'s Auto Body.

When I say "joined" in reference to a yahoo group, I mean the individual has clicked on the button that says "Join this group". Then yahoo software replies something like, "Okay, you can join. Do you want to read the group messages online or do you want to have them mailed to you? If you say mailed, what address do you want to use? If it's one of the following addresses that we already have on file for you, select it, or add a new email address to be associate with your log-in. By the way we will spam you to death unless you turn off the check mark in the following box." (That's not their exact words)

davesearles wrote:
I thought that you had the ability to make up a junk account?


I make junk email addresses so that if other people write to them they will be forwarded to my real account. However, if I send mail, my real address is always in the FROM header.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2008 01:07 pm    Post subject:

John, yes go ahaed and start discussing the amendment proposal. I'll follow. Mike, Now I seem to understand. A person can join a yahoo list even if they do not have a yahoo account, is this right?

Dave
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2008 05:06 pm    Post subject:

Actually I followed your post. Could you, would you post what that Amendment is so that it is there in black and white.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2008 05:48 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
A person can join a yahoo list even if they do not have a yahoo account, is this right?


That would be news to me. I always thought that, to join, you have to click the the "join" button, and then yahoo will reply "You have to be logged in before you can do that!", and to log in you would need a user name and password.

But if, as you said, you saw and you selected a setting to allow non-joined people to post by email, then, although un-joined people wouldn't receive any posts by email, but they could still post by sending email.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 19 Feb 2008 04:48 pm    Post subject:

Dave, could you, would you post that Constitutional Amendment here. I've been searching for it and I cannot find it. Better yet have it in your sig.

John T.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2008 03:45 pm    Post subject:

Thanks Dave for posting the Amendment Proposal. I have made use of these discussions and have posted the proposal over at the Noahide forum which has 86 views now and one response. I am hoping to dispel the myth that Socialism is totalitarian. There is one who thinks slavery should be legal again so the slave can pay off his/her debt and earn their freedom. Rolling Eyes
Hopefully we can get people excited about the Proposal to the Constitution, the SIU and how democratic Socialism would truly be.

However, I don't think there would be very many Noahides who would join the SP-USA due to some things that the SP stand for or demands. The economic issue may attract Noahides to Socialism but the moral aspect would dampen anyone from joining. I won't join. I would like to see things more concentrated on the economic side of things but I know thats not gonna happen. I do think social issues have to be dealt with by the people at large but to make them a mandate for a political platform needs to be reconsidered. That's my opinion.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2008 05:03 am    Post subject:

I was outside in the cold for four hours, taping the lunar eclipse with my camcorder.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2008 11:33 am    Post subject:

As of now it is -4 degrees F. I know it has to be a lot colder up there where you are at. Were you, by any chance, singing "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd while shivering? Razz
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject:

No, I was singing that old song by Dean Martin ....

When the moon hits your eye
like a big pizza pie,
That's amore.
When the world seems to shine
like you've had too much wine,
That's amore.
Bells will ring,
ting-a-ling-a-ling, ting-a-ling-a-ling,
And you'll sing Vita Bella.
Hearts will play,
tippy-tippy-tay, tippy-tippy-tay,
Like a gay tarantella.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2008 06:17 pm    Post subject:

Average daily temperture at a location is defined as the mean of the high and low temperatures for that day.

Assume you have a thermometer accurate to one degree.

Hi 80, low 70, mean 75.

Hi 80, low 69, mean 74.5?

does this violate the rules of significant digits? In one respect it does but in another, when I know that the person did not attempt to measure beyond the extent of the thermometer, it seems justifed.

And do we presume that when we read a typical liqid in a glass tube thermometer that the measurement is accuate plus or minus a half degree?

How about averging the averge temperatures over a year, with such a large sample, doesn't it seem justifed to report the average in tenths?

Something like saying that the typical household has 2.4 children. Of course we know that no one has .4 of a child and the 4 tenths does seem justifed if your are talking about calculatinghow many children there will be in a a large sampe like children in a school district.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2008 09:17 pm    Post subject:

Hahaha - there's really an organization called CRAP - the acronym of the Communist Revolutionary Action Party.

http://communistrevolutionaryactionparty.blogspot.com/
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 25 Feb 2008 12:07 am    Post subject:

You know what's useful? http://answers.yahoo.com/
Ask any question at all, and people will often answer it within a few minutes.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2008 08:44 pm    Post subject:

This is odd, the New Union Party has stopped using that name, and yet they are still buying advertising under that name. A google ad, as of today, says:

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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2008 03:48 am    Post subject:

Sick sense of humor? youtube video: Wendy's hamburger advertisement: Soviet fashion show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWAKtYGJZSM
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2008 04:10 pm    Post subject:

Sick? Aw, c'mon Mike it was funny. What was more funny was the Leninist response.

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shows americans are obsessed with their hamburgers and that fat lady is definitely american fuck capitalist whores. eat ur burgers and pretend everything is ok!


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A few other comments

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The soviet's couln't hack it, they protested this commercial and forced Wendy's to take it off the air!


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LoL, Wendy's was spot-on on portraying the Soviet system. The evening-wear bit with the flashlight cracked me up.


John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Mar 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject:

I found that humorous youtube link in the "trashcan" area at revleft. Someone started a thread to post the link and a moderator immediately trashcanned it. Now we know where to find goodies at revleft -- by looking through the material that moderators judged to be unacceptable. Hey, that's also the say the mass media was in the USSR -- the banned ideas were the ideas worth checking out. There are several ways in which the administration of revleft is similar to the administration of the USSR.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 06 Mar 2008 09:26 am    Post subject:

Mike wrote:

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There are several ways in which the administration of revleft is similar to the administration of the USSR.


I noticed that with the "Commie Club" for starters. One guy I knew was demoted to the restricted area for a comment he made--He would only comment on things with a sentence or two. He PMed me and wrote that he would never return to revleft.

On the other hand, way to many there won't discuss the shortcomings of the former Soviet Union. I do recall the book The Russians where leading Party members and their families got the real goodies (non Russian) from secret stores.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 06 Mar 2008 08:44 pm    Post subject:

I came across this while looking through the Sci Fi channel website. I always did enjoy Star Trek and lo and behold there is an few independent film makers who are filming episodes.

http://www.starshipfarragut.com/

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

I was surprised that the New Voyages had a few of the original Star Trek personnel like Sulu and Chekov playing themselves.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 06 Mar 2008 09:42 pm    Post subject:

Wow, those are great! I've been a Star Trek fan since the original series. I didn't know people could make productions like that "as long as no one profits", and it's surprising to see that people are doing all that work. I'll have to download all their files soon.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Mar 2008 08:48 pm    Post subject:

Oh, no - another thing to distract me. I found a place called physicsforum.com where I can talk to people about the sciences. I just spent about three days over there.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2008 06:54 pm    Post subject:

At the Yahoo Group: Socialist Moderated, there are questions asked at the bottom of the page which asks "Questions in Politics." I thought why not and answered a few of the questions. It's just incredible that the number of questions asked always refer to Liberals as Socialist or Obama and Hilary being Socialist. So, I pointed out that error and try to explain what De Leonist Socialism was. I got very few thumbs up but many thumbs down. I also noticed a lot of racist were answering along with Republicans and Libertarians. Did it do any good to explain? No not one bit. I think way too many common people in the U.S. have a daily diet of AM radio talk shows and Fox News. I also noticed that those employed tend to blame other workers, those out of work and getting assistance, and those with disabilities as being the "real" problem rather than the the practices of Capitalism in which they try to defend.

John T.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2008 08:21 pm    Post subject:

Sometimes I feel that I'm not the same species as other people. Being told someone else's opinion a thousand times doesn't make me even a tiny bit more likely to believe it. I take an argument apart into its assumptions and its reasoning, and either I agree or I disagree. Maybe I'm right and maybe I'm wrong, but either way it's not based on how many times I have heard it said. But what the hell is wrong with everybody? If the media tells people something over and over, that's all that is required for them to believe it. In the news reports on some armed group fighting for a cause, if the media calls those people freedom-fighters a thousand times then the public believes they're freedom-fighters, but if the media calls them terrorists a thousand times then the public believes they're terrorists. If the media tells people "you are interested in hearing about Ashley Simpson's nose job", then they obey and they are therefore interested in Ashley Simpson's nose job. Either people will start to think for themselves or there can be no, i repeat: no -- no further social progress -- people can continue live under the threat of war and fascism and poverty for the next million years.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject:

Here is a very simple math puzzle. See if you can solve it!

It drove me crazy for about an hour before I figured it out!

Three kids go to a candy store. Each kid has 10 cents. The sign says, "candy bar, 30 cents." The three kids combine their money, buy the candy bar, and divide the candy equally. Then the cashier realizes that the price of the candy bar was supposed to be changed today to 25 cents. The cashier has overcharged the kids by 5 cents, and is supposed to refund 5 cents to them. But how can he refund 5 cents to three kids? He decides to do this with the 5 cent refund: give each of the three kids a penny, and pocket the other 2 cents for himself. Now let's account for all of the money. Each kid has paid 10 cents, but got a penny back, so each kid has paid 9 cents. Since there are three kids, and each one paid 9 cents, the kids altogether paid 9X3=27 cents. Adding that 27 cents that the kids paid to the 2 cents that the cashier pocketed, that's a total of 29 cents. The mystery is: why doesn't it add up to 30? Where did the other penny go?

If you give up, I'm putting my solution online here:
http://crimsonbird.com/lepore/puzzle-answer.htm
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008 09:21 pm    Post subject:

I'm not saying I can't do math but me and numbers don't get along. I do really well with words and grammar but I never could figure out why I had such a hard time with numbers. There was may a time I understood directions and how the calculations would go but every time I would miss an addition or subtraction of a number in the process and get the wrong answer.

Over the months I have improved on playing the bass guitar and have picked up on reading the music for it. I still have a long ways to go but I'm getting there. Very Happy
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 02:51 am    Post subject:

I'm careless with math. I generally know how to set up what I want to solve, even with some tough science and engineering problems, but then I'll write 8 times 6 is 86 or some damn thing.

I took classical guitar lessons for ten year, from ages 7 to 17. You ever hear some Bach on the guitar? But then I forgot a lot of it! Now I even have some difficulty reading sheet music if it's not in the key of C.

Now I'm trying to teach myself to play the keyboard, but I can still only play three songs.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 03:05 am    Post subject:

The kids paid 27 cents for a 25 cent candy bar, The two cents that the clerk pocketed was from this differnce.

Something like surplus value. It's not the easiest to see it right off.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 06:51 am    Post subject:

Dave - the challenge is: how do you now take account of everything in such a way that you have the sum 30 that they came in the door with?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 10:52 am    Post subject:

They tendered 30 cents and were given change of three cents. They effectively were charged 27 cents for something that was priced 25 cents. (Item price 25 cents. 2 cents to the clerk.) 3 cents in change from the 30 cents. 25 + 2 + 3 = 30

The 2 cents (commission) is part of the 27 cents the kids ultimately were charged.

It's a false premise question - the supposition that somehow the two cents is supposed to span the three cent difference between what was tendered (30 cents) and what the ultimate price was (27 cents).

Very good exercise. I wouldn't doubt that it came from a logic textbook.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 04:14 pm    Post subject:

Last day of March and I still made a fire in the wood stove this morning. Cold in here when I woke up.

Right. For some reason people will keep trying to add the 27 to the 2, instead of adding the 27 to the 3. I think this puzzle it's related to "leading" questions. You can make people believe something false just by asking questions in a certain way.

I once saw a documentary about this. In an experiment, they asked people questions like: "In that video we played for you last month, when you saw the part where the truck hit the building, can you remember whether the truck was blue or green, to settle a disagreement about what color it was?" -- Then people would then "remember" which of those colors "saw" -- But the correct answer would have been: the video didn't show any truck hitting any building, it only showed some people who spoke about it.

It's scary the things people can do with other people's minds.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 09:49 pm    Post subject:

The felony trial is Friday. Looks good but I don't want to get over-confident.

I'm starting to wonder if my friends in the SP are 1000th as interested in the amendment proposal as I am as a way of drumming up interest.

Possible plan B.

As the name of an idependent nominating committee:

Commonwealth Party?

Industrial Commonwealth Party?

Or how about ----



Labor Commonweath Party?

Article Five Party?

Constitution Party is taken.

American Delta Party????



For the moment I am in love with this name. Seems like I should get an old blues guitar and head out on the road! American Δ !!

But using the symbol won't work becuase it looks like a slice of pie and we might get in trouble with Don McClean but then again his is American Π so why not take American Δ?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Apr 2008 06:08 am    Post subject:

495 years of DeLeonism in America

How shall we celebrate?

4/2/08

On this date in 1513, Spanish explorer Juan Ponce de Leon landed in present-day Florida.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Apr 2008 06:27 am    Post subject:

Here's an interesting thingy. The lawyers for Pathfinder Press, publishing department of the so-called Socialist Workers Party (U.S.), wrote to marxists.org and demanded removal of certain texts on which Pathfinder owns the copyright. I found this out a few weeks ago when I went to look at George Novack's 1942 book, 'Introduction to the Logic of Marxism', and found that it contained only the table of contents and a notice that the text had to be removed.

But here is another site that contains copies of the letters exchanged between the ambulance-chasers and marxism.org, and also contains the deleted texts, all available in a zip file for convenient downloading.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/1602/textosmarxistas/trottext/trottext.html
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 03 Apr 2008 04:03 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for the head ups on this and I did download and unzip those files which some was interesting to see. I have to go but I thought this was interesting what Trot had wrote:

Only the conscious and organized working class can send a strong representation into the halls of parliament to look out for proletarian interests.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 05 Apr 2008 01:03 pm    Post subject:

4/4/08 5:00 p.m. Rutland District Court
State of Vermont v. David Searles

On the felony count of assault with a dangerous weapon, the jury found not guilty.

On the misdemeanor count of assault, the jury found not guilty.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 05 Apr 2008 05:05 pm    Post subject:

I am very glad that things went really well Dave. I won't be posting for a few days. I am putting in some hours a work.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:24 am    Post subject:

from: http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/a-numbers-guy-quiz-on-probability-313/?mod=fpa_blogs

1. Suppose 1,000 athletes are tested for drugs. One in 10 have used the drugs, and the test has a 1% false-positive rate (and the false-negative rate is negligible). If an athlete from this group tests positive, what is the probability that she has used the drugs, to the nearest percentage point?

2. You know that a certain family has two children, and that at least one is a girl. But you can’t recall whether both are girls. What is the probability that the family has two girls — to the nearest percentage point?

3. You know that a certain family has two children, and you remember that at least one is a girl with a very unusual name (that, say, one in a million females share), but you can’t recall whether both children are girls. What is the probability that the family has two girls — to the nearest percentage point?

4. In baseball, suppose the American League champion is better than the National League champion, such that it has a 55% probability of winning each game against the NL champ. Then the NL champ nonetheless will win a best-of-seven-games series four in 10 times. What is the smallest odd number, X, for which a World Series between these two league champs that is best-of-X will ensure that there’s a 95% probability of a just result — the superior AL champ winning?

5. Suppose you’re on a game show, and you’re given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind each of the other two, a cow. You pick a door, say No. 1, and the host, who knows what’s behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, to reveal a cow. He then says to you, “Do you want to change your choice to door No. 2?” Is it to your advantage to switch your choice, assuming you prefer cars to cows?

6. Suppose that 60% of eligible voters in Scranton, Pa., prefer Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama. If you randomly select five of these prospective voters and they tell you their true preferences, what is the probability that exactly three of these five support Clinton?

7. In a large set of financial data — for instance, the revenue of Fortune 500 companies in each of the last 50 years — what proportion of the financial figures should you expect to begin with the digit 1, to the nearest 5 percentage points?

8. Which number is greater, the number of six-letter English words having “n” as their fifth letter or the number of six-letter English words ending in “ing”?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:28 am    Post subject:

1. Suppose 1,000 athletes are tested for drugs. One in 10 have used the drugs, and the test has a 1% false-positive rate (and the false-negative rate is negligible). If an athlete from this group tests positive, what is the probability that she has used the drugs, to the nearest percentage point?

DAS: This looks too simple. I say 99%. If a person tested posiive there is a 1% chance that it is false positive so the reamining 99% are correct. It seems to me.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:30 am    Post subject:

2. You know that a certain family has two children, and that at least one is a girl. But you can’t recall whether both are girls. What is the probability that the family has two girls — to the nearest percentage point?

DAS:

50%
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:32 am    Post subject:

3. You know that a certain family has two children, and you remember that at least one is a girl with a very unusual name (that, say, one in a million females share), but you can’t recall whether both children are girls. What is the probability that the family has two girls — to the nearest percentage point?

50% ?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 04:53 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
1. Suppose 1,000 athletes are tested for drugs. One in 10 have used the drugs, and the test has a 1% false-positive rate (and the false-negative rate is negligible). If an athlete from this group tests positive, what is the probability that she has used the drugs, to the nearest percentage point?


I'm not sure of the official definition of a "false positive" rate. You figured that it means: of all those who test positive, how many of these results are false. I think it means: of all those who are innocent and ideally should test negative, how many of these get positive results anyway. This assumption will change the answer.

This is how I think you do it.

1000 people consist of of 900 innocent and 100 guilty. Of the 900 innocent, ten percent, 90 people, are accused (false positives), and the other 90 percent, 810 people, are never accused. So the number who test positive is the total of 100 guilty and the 90 who are falsely accused, for a total of 190. So the probability that someone who tests positive is really guilty is: 100 guilty / 190 blamed = 0.5263... = 53 percent.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:00 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
2. You know that a certain family has two children, and that at least one is a girl. But you can’t recall whether both are girls. What is the probability that the family has two girls — to the nearest percentage point?


33 percent.

The girl-boy permutations are:
GG
GB
BG
BB

"At least one is a girl" means: cross off the fourth row, and leave the first three rows:

GG
GB
BG

Out of those three, the probability of GG is one-third.


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3. You know that a certain family has two children, and you remember that at least one is a girl with a very unusual name (that, say, one in a million females share), but you can’t recall whether both children are girls. What is the probability that the family has two girls — to the nearest percentage point?


33 percent.

This is identical to the previous question, with the addition of some irrelevant facts as a distraction.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:08 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
5. Suppose you’re on a game show, and you’re given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind each of the other two, a cow. You pick a door, say No. 1, and the host, who knows what’s behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, to reveal a cow. He then says to you, “Do you want to change your choice to door No. 2?” Is it to your advantage to switch your choice, assuming you prefer cars to cows?


It's not relevant that you already picked something and may change the choice. This is the same situation as if you hadn't even begun to think about it. One door and own cow have been eliminated, so there are two permutations: (car, cow) and (cow, car). No matter what you do you have a 50 percent chance.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:11 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
8. Which number is greater, the number of six-letter English words having “n” as their fifth letter or the number of six-letter English words ending in “ing”?


The number of six-letter English words having “n” as their fifth letter is larger, because this includes the other group as a subset.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:23 pm    Post subject:

"5. Suppose you’re on a game show, and you’re given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind each of the other two, a cow. You pick a door, say No. 1, and the host, who knows what’s behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, to reveal a cow. He then says to you, “Do you want to change your choice to door No. 2?” Is it to your advantage to switch your choice, assuming you prefer cars to cows?"

ML:

It's not relevant that you already picked something and may change the choice. This is the same situation as if you hadn't even begun to think about it. One door and own cow have been eliminated, so there are two permutations: (car, cow) and (cow, car). No matter what you do you have a 50 percent chance.

DAS

On this one I am pretty certain that you are incorrect Mike. This is known in mathmatics, believe it or not, as Monty Hall's conjecture. It has been shown in repeated computer simulations that it is to your benefit to change your choice mid stream. I used to know why.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 05:26 pm    Post subject:

Mike can you write me another capture program. This time the directory is

http://www.libraries.vermont.gov/supct/supct.html

and I want to capture the decsions two levels down.

Thanks
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 07:33 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
Mike can you write me another capture program. This time the directory is

http://www.libraries.vermont.gov/supct/supct.html

and I want to capture the decsions two levels down.

Thanks


It won't let me retrieve the index of file names, or even retrieve the html documents so I could extract the names from them. It's giving me a "forbidden" error. I think the only way it could be done is if you made a list of all the zillions of file names like http://www.libraries.vermont.gov/supct/176/2003-111op.txt . If there was a list of all url's it's easy to insert the grab url command in front of each name and execute the whole list.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 07:35 pm    Post subject:

The Monty Hall problem makes no sense to me. I don't understand how they got their answer.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject:

I will come up with a list of file names.

As to Monty's problem.

I think that the explaination is somehow incorrect.I think that it raises your odds to switch, from one in three to one in two.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Apr 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject:

I looked at the file names, pain in the ass to make a complete list.

I had wanted to capture the files in order to better be able to search their contents. Any ideas?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2008 02:10 am    Post subject:

Ideas

1. See if you find any instructions on their site that says "you can access our records by FTP". If so, we might be able to use the FTP command mget (multiple-get).

2. If the files are public records, you could email the admin of their computer center and ask if there's a way to acquire all files named anything.txt
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davesearles
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2008 05:18 am    Post subject:

coincidentially Monty's Problem in the news:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/08/science/08tier.html?em&ex=1207886400&en=2b8f677ffd1f2caf&ei=5087%0A
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Apr 2008 06:13 pm    Post subject:

Okay, now I figured out the Monty problem and my answer finally agrees with the web sites, which is: if you switch you have a 2/3 chance of winning, and if you keep your first choice you have a 1/3 chance of winning.

It's easy if you list all the combinations and check them one at a time. There are nine possibilities of equal probability, because there are three doors, and your first choice can be any one of the three doors. These nine cases, which I will number 1 through 9 for reference, are:

Code:

1.  door1=car  (choice)    door2=goat             door3=goat
2.  door1=goat (choice)    door2=car              door3=goat
3.  door1=goat (choice)    door2=goat             door3=car
4.  door1=car              door2=goat (choice)    door3=goat
5.  door1=goat             door2=car  (choice)    door3=goat
6.  door1=goat             door2=goat (choice)    door3=car
7.  door1=car              door2=goat             door3=goat (choice)
8.  door1=goat             door2=car              door3=goat (choice)
9.  door1=goat             door2=goat             door3=car  (choice)


Now it's easy. In cases 1,5,9 (total: three of the nine cases) you would win in you keep your first choice. In cases 2,3,4,6,7,8 (total: six of the nine cases) you would win if you switch.

The moral of the story is: always write down a list of all possible combinations, and simply count them!
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 12 Apr 2008 01:54 am    Post subject:

I've been helping the school kids with their physics homework at physicsforums.com. Here's an example of my wonderful help:

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=228247
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davesearles
PostPosted: 12 Apr 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject:

Can you splain what you splained?

The equation of motion of a simple harmonic oscillator is (second derivative of x wrt t) d2x/dt2 = -9x, where x is displacement and t is time. The period of oscillation is?

Hooks law. Right?

the equation of motion - second derivative where x is displacement?

If an equation shows displacment over time, isn't that the equation of motion?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 12 Apr 2008 04:53 pm    Post subject:

The first derivative of the spring position is the speed. The first derivative of the speed, that is, the second derivative of the position, is the acceleration.

The experienced person will already have it in mind that the derivative of the sine is the cosine, and the derivative of the cosine is minus the sine. So as soon as the problem says that here is a given constant of proportionality between position and acceleration, it jumps right out at you that the whole sine function will cancel out.

It is true that newton's second law F=ma and Hooke's law F=-kx will combine into ma=-kx, and that would let us derive an expression for the frequency of oscillation in term of the mass and the spring constant. Most simple harmonic motion (SHM) problems require that. However, this particular problem isn't about that, because the spring constant and the mass were never given. The only given information is a proportionality between position and acceleration. We see that this is enough information to find the frequency.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 15 Apr 2008 02:45 am    Post subject:

For want of a nail

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/science/15titanic.html?hp
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 15 Apr 2008 03:24 am    Post subject:

Now I'll give my socialist analysis.

The article says the Titanic -- "went down fast after hitting an iceberg because the ship’s builder used substandard rivets that popped their heads and let tons of icy seawater rush in."

... and after the captain hovered over the helmsman like a vulture all night and kept yelling at him, "Go faster! Go faster! Pay no attention to the fact that it's too foggy to see anything!" Just go faster!".

Go-go-go never-slow-down just-go-faster is why the Titanic sunk, why the nuclear power plant at Chernobyl melted down, why fourteen construction workers were killed during the construction of the Empire State Building, and why the space shuttle Challenger exploded. All of these disaster were all caused by management nagging workers to go faster.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 15 Apr 2008 06:46 am    Post subject:

Speaking of "For Want of a Nail" I did a post to see what characters posted at the Farragut website. They believe capitalism is alive and well in the original series of Star Trek, right through TNG, and that the Federation of Planets/Star Fleet is compared to the European Union. Guess there is no snowball's chance in hell those people would consider a Socialist economy even though the show did give some hints to it but made allowances monetary trade for tribbles or for miners getting rich off world.

Mike wrote:

Quote:
Go-go-go never-slow-down just-go-faster is why the Titanic sunk, why the nuclear power plant at Chernobyl melted down, why fourteen construction workers were killed during the construction of the Empire State Building, and why the space shuttle Challenger exploded. All of these disaster were all caused by management nagging workers to go faster.


I have the unfortunate experience to be working for a manager who wants everyone to work faster and faster. He believes our minds keeps us from attaining goals of being faster and we have to overcome that. He even quoted something Henry Ford wrote and because of how he thought he became one of the richest men in the world. I replied that Ford also supported Hitler. Wink
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 15 Apr 2008 06:57 am    Post subject:

Futuristic stories like Star Trek, when people think it's going to be capitalism, it's so absurd. People don't realize what it would mean. It would mean people and robots colonizing deep space, and, at the same time, people having to go on strike for a meager subsistence wage, while a small group of people confiscate 99.9 percent of the robots' products as their personal profit. It's absolutely absurd, but that's exactly what would happen if people still have capitalism in the long-term future. If it comes to that then people are all nuts.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 15 Apr 2008 11:52 am    Post subject:

JT:

Ford also supported Hitler.

DS:

Hell, Hitler studied Ford.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 23 Apr 2008 07:03 pm    Post subject:

A little inspiration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPHrEx4m0mo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVIL7AoAt0&feature=related
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Apr 2008 07:27 am    Post subject:

This is a nice organization of people giving away free stuff --

search by city name:
http://www.freecycle.org/

search by zip code:
http://green.yahoo.com/earth-day/find-a-group.html
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lepore-test
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2008 06:54 pm    Post subject:

ignore this test message. forum registration process is working correctly. that means the lack of multitudes of people here isn't due to the software being broken. it must be due to the global conspiracy of the freemasons.

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I swear by the light of the moon at high tide that I will never disclose any of our secrets, on penalty of having my throat cut from ear to ear .... -- the freemasons secret initiation oath, slightly paraphrased because I can't remember the exact words.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 30 Apr 2008 07:07 pm    Post subject:

I just went throught he process to move a domain from networksolutions.com to godaddy.com . That was some heap of bureaucracy. It was worse than raising a point of order at a meeting of a socialist organization.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 04 May 2008 08:36 pm    Post subject:

Interesting fellow that Thomas More, author of "Utopia", a 16th century of concept of "socialism". I see that this chapter of Karl Kautsky's book about More describes an event that was dramatized last week in Showtime's televised miniseries 'The Tudors'. In this scene, Henry VIII is already in full rebellion against the pope and married to Anne Boleyn. More, a supporter of the pope, has previously promised Henry that he will retire from public life and remain silent about his protestations. Nevertheless, More starts distributing copies of an old book wherein it was Henry himself (or Henry's ghostwriter) who has written that the pope is always the big boss of the church, which embassasses the king. More going back on his promise to shut up makes Henry angry. Then More, who has already notified his bawling wife and kids that he was planning to choose martyrdom rather soon, "loses his head" in more ways than one, if you can dig my clever use of the phrase.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 05 May 2008 09:55 am    Post subject:

Perhaps you knew this, Thomas Morre was the subject of the Docudrama movie Man for All Seasons for which Paul Schofield won the Oscar for best actor. The movie's take concerned Moore's refusal to acknowege the propriety of one of Hen 8's marriages as I recall.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/movies/21scofield.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 May 2008 02:22 pm    Post subject:

I hadn't heard of that actor before. Just my luck, I learn about him only from his obituary :o)
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davesearles
PostPosted: 05 May 2008 09:26 pm    Post subject:

I always go to NYT.com everyday and check out the obits. I figure it's your last chance to meet people and get their history.

It's a good flick too.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 05 May 2008 09:44 pm    Post subject:

I never read Utopia before. Easy reading:

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl302/texts/more/utopia-contents.html

"everywhere one may hear of ravenous dogs and wolves, and cruel man-eaters; but it is not so easy to find States that are well and wisely governed"
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 06 May 2008 07:10 pm    Post subject:

To whom it may concern: I just deleted two forum categories ("socialist media projects" and "off-topic and leisure") because no one has posted anything in them in over a year. I didn't bother to move the messages to archive files because they were mostly me, either making off-the-top-of-my-head notes, or just rambling off-topic. I can create similar topics in the future if they become useful. I'll tentatively leave the "books" category alone, even though no one has been using it, because it's potentially useful.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 11 May 2008 10:28 am    Post subject:

Pardon my absence but there are too many people off work and the over eager money making manager has not hired another person to take anyones place. So I've been very tired after work. Will be back at another date.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 15 May 2008 01:43 pm    Post subject:

Dammit, I missed the "Maury" show. Now I'll never find out "who the baby daddy."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 May 2008 08:19 am    Post subject:

I always thought an asterisk has eight points. But I just counted them and found out it has six points.

* * * * * * * * *
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davesearles
PostPosted: 21 May 2008 07:10 pm    Post subject:

An asterisk (*) is a typographical symbol or glyph. It is so called because it resembles a conventional image of a star (Latin astrum). ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 May 2008 07:25 pm    Post subject:

Lots of our words come from thinking about stars or planets. A good one to know is the flu, influenza, sickness apparently caused by a bad astrological "influence." It is mandatory to memorize such important information.

Last summer I was outside with a friend at night, and we had an argument about which way north was. I could see Polaris right there in plain sight. He should have known about that. He's an "outdoorsman" type. I'm just a geek.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 23 May 2008 05:39 am    Post subject:

Did you ever see the feature "Letter Box" in The People? They publicly answer questions without printing the questions! It looks so stupid. It looks kinda like this:

B.W. in Albuquerque: No, we have never heard of it before.

T.R. in Portland: It happened in 1912.

A. McD. in Omaha: The correct term is "surplus value."
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davesearles
PostPosted: 23 May 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject:

That with the SLP letterbox sounds so much like the comedy team of Bob and Ray.

The dog days of summer also refers to a star.

Ditto Subaru - it refers to a star group.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 May 2008 01:45 am    Post subject:

I know a lot about how stars work. You know something weird - they figure it can take more than a hundred thousand years for light generated at the core of a star to reach the surface and get out. That's because the gas is so dense that the light gets absorbed by an atom, reemitted, and travels such a short distance before being reabsorbed by another atom.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 24 May 2008 11:12 am    Post subject:

there is a traffic light where I have to turn left to go to work. The light that illuminates that green arrow must be generated close to the sun's core because of the near eternity it takes for that green arrow to light up.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 May 2008 04:23 pm    Post subject:

Today is our 22nd wedding anniversary.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 25 May 2008 03:05 am    Post subject:

I don't remember getting married to you.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 25 May 2008 07:43 am    Post subject:

I meant Nancy and Mike. I should have been clearer about that.

We celebrated at a favorite Memphis-style barbecue restaurant.

Regarding what makes a Memphis barbecue different from any other, I'm not certain and I must accept it on faith.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 25 May 2008 11:44 am    Post subject:

http://memphis.about.com/od/barbecue/p/memphisbbq.htm
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 25 May 2008 05:58 pm    Post subject:

Ah, that's very enlightenling. Maybe I'll try to make my own barbecue sauce. This place, Memphis Max's in Pine Plains, established in MCMXCVIII, I believe the sign said, has been written up in magazines for being of such good quallity. In the past I often got the ribs -- the full rack because it only cost slightly more than the half rack -- then I'd take half of it home and there my midnight snack. But last evening instead of the ribs I decided to get the pulled pork. As the name implies, it has the form of being pulled off the barbecued piggie with a fork, so shapewise it's a pile of shreds and shoestring shapes. To the people adhering to kosher diets, I say: nyaah-nyaah. Some of the side dishes, like [super hot] chili and baked beans and collards, are also southern favorites. A few pints of Sam Adams, and it's a banquet.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 May 2008 05:04 pm    Post subject:

On the legal front -

The RESUMPTION of misdeamor charge that I hit the old lady with my car was postponed AGAIN yesterday. The trial STARTED December 2006.

June 2, the day I am looking forward to - is the 3rd aniverserty of the alleged event. As of that day she cannot institute a lawsuit against me. I think they were waiting to see what the criminal trial did and now they have waited too long. On Monday I may be very happy about this. We shall see. (Not that there is anything to sue me for - my insurance company will not pay becuase it was a "criminal" event if I hit her.)
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 May 2008 08:08 pm    Post subject:

Mike you were married in 86? For some reason I thought it was 85.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 May 2008 09:38 pm    Post subject:

I finished grad school at the U of Vermont in May of 1985. Returned to New York. Nancy and I got an apartment in Poughkeepsie. Then for one year I listened to my mother-in-law say, "Nancy, a word with you, please! Now that you''re already living together, when is this guy going to marry you?" Then in May of 1986 we did it.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 29 May 2008 05:28 am    Post subject:

it was org not com

http://www.craigslist.org/

http://www.craigslist.org/about/factsheet.html
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 29 May 2008 05:16 pm    Post subject:

I just heard them mention craigslist on the Penn & Teller show on Showtime. They said they put an ad on craigslist for people with hairy bodies to volunteer for a video about people getting waxed.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 29 May 2008 05:50 pm    Post subject:

I would like to volunteer several not necesarily hairy people to get wacked.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 30 May 2008 03:52 am    Post subject:

PALM DESERT, Calif. (AP) — Joseph Pevney, who directed some of the best-known episodes of the original “Star Trek” television series, died on May 18 at his home here. He was 96.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/arts/television/30pevney.html?ref=obituaries

Michael, you were about the only person I knew in high school who thought that Star Trek was important TV watchng.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 30 May 2008 05:17 am    Post subject:

Star Trek and The Man from UNCLE. I wouldn't miss an episide for anything.

To this day I can recite from Star Trek from memory. That's due to seeing each episode in reruns a few hundred times.

"If she fails us, we better get used to herding goats."

"One doesn't thank logic, Amanda."

"I'm a doctor, not a bricklayer."

"I want these things off the ship. I don't care if it takes every man we've got. I want them off the ship."

"Harcourt! Harcourt Fenton Mudd!"

"Computer, compute to the last digit the value of pi."
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davesearles
PostPosted: 30 May 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject:

I didn't know that it extended to the Man from UNCLE - then do you watch NCIS now?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 30 May 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject:

What is it -- NCIS -- I never heard of it.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 01:24 am    Post subject:

It's a crime show on CBS Tuesdays at 8:00. I'm not going to tell you anything more about it.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 01:46 am    Post subject:

I found the official wiki and forum for the show. Oh cripes it's in its 6th season. No way I'm gonna jump into a series in the 6th season. First I would have to watch the first 5 seasons on DVD. By the time I finish all those DVD's, the 6th season would be over with, and then I'd have to watch the 6th season on DVD.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 01:54 am    Post subject:

Joke time ....

Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: Blasphemy is a victimless crime.
From: <sarrett@blue.green.misnet.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:17:32 -0500

Jesus was hanging on the cross. Paul and Mary Magdeline are at the foot
of the hill when Jesus calls out, "Paul, Paul, come up here.". Paul
rushes up the hill only to be beaten back down by the Roman Centurians.
Over and over he tries and is kicked back down. He finally gets near
enough to yell out, "It's me my Lord, Paul, what do you have to tell
me?".

"Paul, I can see your house from up here!"
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 02:22 am    Post subject:

This is an excerpt from the science fiction novel _Creatures of Light and Darkness_ by Roger Zelazny, 1969. In this scene an agnostic is praying to God:

"Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen."
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davesearles
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 09:29 am    Post subject:

ML:

"Paul, I can see your house from up here!"

DS:

I think it needs to be changed to Peter. Paul and Jesus would have never met if I remember my bible correctly.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 09:53 am    Post subject:

Star Trek takes a second hit:

Alexander Courage, ‘Star Trek’ Composer, Dies at 88
By MARGALIT FOX
Mr. Courage was an Emmy-winning Hollywood composer whose most famous work was the strange, soaring and instantly recognizable theme from “Star Trek.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/31/arts/television/31courage-1.html?ref=obituaries
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 02:06 pm    Post subject:

Paul wasn't one of the twelve apostles? Son of a gun, you're right. They were Matthew, John, Peter, Thomas, Simon, Judas, Andrew, Philip, Thaddeus, Bartholomew, and two named James. I always thought Paul was one of them. This is a surprise.
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 09:35 pm    Post subject:

Dave's right you know. Paul came later as an apostle to the Gentiles but actually Paul mixed Septuagint scriptures of the Hebrew bible and paganism and we get a Zoroastrianism-influenced cult which is today's Christianity. The joke would have been funnier if you would have wrote Peter. Wink
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 31 May 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject:

Okay, try this one:


Subject: Re: Why Does God Allow Evil, Pain and Suffering
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 18:14:43 +0100
From: jay@incom.demon.co.uk (jay dowle)
Newsgroups: alt.mythology

There were these two ants looking at the Taj Mahal.
'Mighty indeed are the works of man,' says one.
'Come on' says that other, 'you don't believe that stuff about man do you?
If there was a man, why would he allow disasters like insecticides?'
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PowerKord
PostPosted: 01 Jun 2008 07:23 pm    Post subject: To Mike

Mike,

I sent you several pieces of email over the last month or so, but have received no response. The first two were identical, entitled “Delete Post or Message,” the second was entitled “Regional Meeting.”

Did you receive these emails?

I’d actually like to speak with you on the phone; I tried to call you but the call failed. I presume that a phone chat once a year won’t be a problem for you.

Please advise on my attempts to contact you, and email me your present telephone number if agreeable.

vince
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PowerKord
PostPosted: 01 Jun 2008 07:24 pm    Post subject: To Greenman

TO GREENMAN

Dear John,

A bit of honesty would have been appreciated. You assured me that sooner or later you'd return to participate in the PCS (now OHF) Discussion Forum. That was some time ago, and to my knowledge you have not returned. Moreover, your scrupulous avoidance of me and all my posts in the present forum is conspicuous.

If your intent was to permanently write me off, or your de facto behavior produced the same result, you should have stated or acknowledged as much, instead of apparently misrepresenting your feelings or intent.

The real coup de grace here is that your reasons for feeling alienated are baffling, and insofar as I can discern and understand them, strike me as insubstantial or in any case, resolvable. Moreover, I believe I've already apologized for any inadvertent injury caused to you, and my past record in showing sensitivity and solicitude to you and your wife speaks for itself and should, one would think, have played a mitigating role in how you would choose to react to a subsequent perceived injury by me.

In these kinds of situations, one would hope that for the sake of maintaining even a semblance of cohesion within our tiny sector of an almost equally-tiny political movement, an aggrieved party would choose reconciliation and understanding, instead of allowing anger and animus to fester. Not to mention the unfortunate condition of things when superfluous conflict, or for that matter any conflict, between people occurs and goes unresolved.

I thus again invite you to communicate with me via email with an eye toward resolution, and I urge you to negotiate this situation from now on in a more straightforward manner.

As my brother in the human family, I love you, John.

Sincerely,

vince
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davesearles
PostPosted: 01 Jun 2008 09:37 pm    Post subject:

Vince, if your purpose is to make it even less likely that either Mike or John will ever communicate with you off channels you are succeeding in spades it would seem.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 01 Jun 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject:

I don't want to receive phone calls, and I don't attend meetings, and these generalities are in effect for the rest of my life, so there is no need to ask about it again after some delay.

Now I should probably add this: with me getting over a thousand spams per day, and the need to delete large blocks of mail headers all at once, I am probably losing a lot of messages. That probably makes email unreliable as a means to contact me. The best way to contact me is in this forum. Tell me if additional private topics are needed for private conversations.

As a possible remedy, and an experiment, I just turned on "private messaging" (pm) in this forum. That's like a private email that goes through the forum software. Let's see if it works. Click on the "pm" button at the bottom of my post to send me a pm. Hope it works.

Funny thing, however, I just sent a pm to myself, but the link at the top of the page still said "you have no new messages". Don't know why. After I clicked it, the "inbox" correctly displayed my incoming pm from myself. Let's see if that "you have no new mesages" link will tell the truth if the pm is from one person to another.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2008 06:48 am    Post subject:

my forum password is "lesbian turkish oil wrestling"
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2008 06:51 am    Post subject:

Okay that pm works okay now. At the top of the screen it said to me "you have 1 new message".
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject:

ML:

my forum password is "lesbian turkish oil wrestling"

DAS:

I just read in the paper the gas in Turkey is at $11.00 per gallon. I wonder what they pay for lesbian wrestling oil.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2008 03:40 pm    Post subject:

Mike have you seen this collection. Do they have anything yoy you don't have?

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Atexts%20AND%20collection%3Aopensource%20AND%20subject%3A%22DE%22
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2008 03:52 pm    Post subject:

That looks like a copy of the SLP's whole file collection.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2008 02:43 am    Post subject:

Play with your ding-a-ling at least one time in honor of Bo Diddley

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/arts/music/03diddley.html?hp#
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The Greenman
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2008 01:46 pm    Post subject:

PMs sounds good to use. Vince, I never write a person off but sometimes I feel I have to leave them alone for a while and sometimes that lasts quite a while. Though I hold no ill will towards any person--when I do it does not last very long.

Vince, take you time on your project and go out for walks in the woods and fields and go fishing once in a while. I am doing that which is why I will continue to learn at a slow pace. It refreshes me and gives me a chance to see how people are thinking at the local level.

If and when I return to OHF I ask that if you would please refrain from timetables of learning. Perhaps you may not realize that you tend to get pushy at times. I get enough of that at work by managers who want to look good with the owners. I also cannot attend any meetings because the wife's health is deteriorating.

Dave---Bo Diddley wrote "Who do you Love" Chuck Berry wrote "My Ding-a-Ling." Wink
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davesearles
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2008 03:57 pm    Post subject:

JT:

Dave---Bo Diddley wrote "Who do you Love" Chuck Berry wrote "My Ding-a-Ling."

das: the senior moments commence
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PowerKord
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2008 05:29 pm    Post subject: REGIONAL MEETING

Mike,

1. Regarding my mail to you, it's a bit disconcerting that my good-faith communications fell into the void, apparently without much concern. You're a smart man, and a technically-oriented one; I'd have thought you'd have emplaced a system to competently process your email flow--and done so before you began losing people's emails.

2. I don't know if you have any idea how frustrating, if not exasperating, it is, to try and create a stronger presence in the tri-state area for our sector of the movement, in this case in the form of a long-overdue regional meeting, yet have one of its most knowledgeable, and apparently most interested persons--you--categorically refuse to participate. Activity in the tri-state area is moribund; the SLP never meets in this area to my knowledge, for example.

And the participation I refer to in this case is this ad-hoc regional meeting I'm planning; a gathering that probably won't be repeated for some time, and that is not intended in any way to solicit your membership in any organization.

Talk about cognitive dissonance, when someone--you--creates, maintains, actively participates in, and seeks to promote a De Leonist website, with the apparent intention of promoting Socialism, generally, and De Leonism, specifically, but then refuses to attend what is understood as a one-time meeting in his general geographical area intended to strengthen and solidify that exact same goal! A real mind-fuck, and a dispiriting one, at that.

No intention for you to join anything; simply a long overdue gathering of the De Leonist diaspora, like the PFANS people, Ed Leader from Bronx/Brooklyn, Mike Hinnenkamp from Jersey City, Al Mitch from New York State, etc. etc., and whomever else wants to attend.

Could be an opportunity to invigorate, even if mildly, the non-SP libertarian tendency in this vital part of the country. And of course the tie-in with your website would be obvious; it could strengthen participation in the site.

Having said all this, have you any interest in attending this one-time, potentially-important event? I would hope so. Your intellect and knowledgebase would be a tremendous asset to the gathering.

Thank you.

vince

PS. (If you decide not to attend, can you do me, and other interested persons, the reasonable courtesy of something you've heretofore inexplicably refused to do: explain either here or privately why you are so opposed to attending a simple meeting? Even in the present case of a meeting so obviously overdue?)
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davesearles
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2008 07:47 pm    Post subject:

Vince, why in this day of $4.00 gasoline and especially when we have the internet would anyone have to physically attend a meeting of anykind?

The discussion forum ought to be sufficient for any meeting of the minds.

What are you a god damned stalker? If you're not, you seem like it. In case you haven't figured it out I keep my comments to you as acerbic as possible to intentionally dissuade you from trying to nag me as well.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2008 08:15 pm    Post subject:

There was a problem with the school district that Vince attended. They gave each kid a dictionary where the the word "NO" appeared next to the definition "Try asking me again later."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Jun 2008 08:26 pm    Post subject:

I'm almost positive I saw Dan Searles on TV last night. In the episode of "American Masters" on PBS about Pete Seeger, just a few minutes from the end, Pete is standing on the street holding a sign that says "Stop the War", then another guy in a ski hat turns around and it looks like Dan.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2008 04:06 am    Post subject:

It were he. We Searles do get around.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2008 04:49 am    Post subject:

And this Searles is in the popular culture as well. From Vinces One Human Family website, a review of deleonism.org:

"However, forum moderation is inadequate,
allowing forum member "Dave Searles" to
sometimes post messages that are needlessly
contrarian, and sometimes overtly, and
apparently deliberately, derogatory, mocking,
insulting, or incendiary. DeLeonism.org is a
superb revolutionary resource, but watch for
this individual.

Mike, why do you let this Searles guy get away with this shit?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2008 06:12 am    Post subject:

Maybe Vince has been insulated from verbal conflict and never got used to. Since I worked for 17 years in a large corporation where everyone screamed at each other all the time, so now I don't have much of a reaction to expressions that some people might think are offensive. And I have even less reaction than that if the subject is politics, where people normally expect the most extreme disagreements. And still less reaction than that if the medium is the computer, where you guys are nothing but a matrix of dots on a screen that's talking to me. I can't even imagine my feeling getting hurt by anything that anyone could possibly say in a political internet forum. But Vince is "affected" by things, for lack of a better word.
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PowerKord
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2008 05:40 pm    Post subject: Dots

Mike,

How far do you take this prima facia absurdist argument? What about someone who writes you a (postal) letter? Is this individual nothing more than a series of penstrokes? Or the individual who telephones you? Nothing more than a series of digital impulses either on or off?

You're engaging in a kind of absurdist reductionism unworthy of your otherwise strong intellect; whether this is intended to be self-serving I cannot say. I can say that it's destructive of human relationships and the structures--like this political movement--those relationships can create.

Moreover, it is a fact that human beings sometimes do change their minds, so in the case of something important or something different than something previously presented, as this meeting, it is not unreasonable to proffer another request.

Regarding the screaming people at IBM and the way it's inured you to the expressed grievances of others: by your own admission, then, you've allowed the interpersonal conflict characteristic of capitalism to influence the course of your own personal development. In regard, no less, to something you represent yourself as caring about--the building of socialism. Is this kind of insidious de facto negative environmental influence something you really want to permit yourself?

If so, you have unwittingly and ironically allowed capitalism to partially sabotage your efforts to build socialism.

There's more I can write to address other of your remarks, but this is enough.

vince
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2008 06:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Dots

"allowed the interpersonal conflict characteristic of capitalism to influence the course of your own personal development" -- ideally it's supposed to. It's called growing older. "What does not kill me makes me stronger." (Nietzsche) You don't see many surgeons with thirty years of experience who feel as squeamish about blood as they did the first time they picked up the knife. A person is supposed to toughen with experience. How can you argue about radical politics if you get upset upon learning that there's a person who bashed your idea? You think I'm going to pace the floor and mope around worrying, because there's some guy who ridiculed my idea? The rules of etiquette for adults arguing about politics are not exactly the same as the rules of etiquette for paying attention to a kindergartener who brings a puppy to show-and-tell. You want me to moderate a political forum as if to say, "Dave, it's not nice to make fun of Vince's little puppy."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2008 07:04 pm    Post subject:

Quotation of the day:

"If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen."

-- Harry S. Truman in 1942
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 04 Jun 2008 08:09 pm    Post subject:

"Jesus, Joseph and Mary were doing chores around their home in Nazareth when suddenly Jesus ran outside to Joseph, and asked, 'Did you call me?' -- 'No,' Joseph replied, 'I just hit my thumb with the hammer.'" -- Garrison Keillor
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2008 03:51 am    Post subject: Re: Dots

PowerKord wrote:
whether this is intended to be self-serving I cannot say


No post would be complete without adding a clause where a question is raised about the other person's bad motives....
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2008 04:09 am    Post subject: Re: Dots

PowerKord wrote:
How far do you take this prima facia absurdist argument? What about someone who writes you a (postal) letter? Is this individual nothing more than a series of penstrokes? Or the individual who telephones you? Nothing more than a series of digital impulses either on or off?


First, it wasn't an argument. An argument is a series of propositions intented to demonstrate a conclusion. I was reporting on how I feel about something. I never get upset by people "flaming" in internet forums. I think it's silly for others to get upset about it. This is not an argument.

Now, here is an argument:

Second, the remoteness of the person, the guy in the computer forum, means that he has no power over my life. He's not a boss forcing me to work thorugh my lunch break. He's not a landlord forbidding me to hang a picture on the wall. He's not a lawyer who might subpoena me. He's just somebody who said he thinks differently than I think. On top of all that, I can't even see his face, and I'm never going to meet him. To grant that guy any power over me, I would really have to be a habitual victim.

Here's a poem that was published in 1969:

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Gestalt Prayer

I do my thing and you do your thing.
I am not in this world to live up to your expectations,
And you are not in this world to live up to mine.
You are you, and I am I, and if by chance we find each other, it's beautiful.
If not, it can't be helped.

-- Fritz Perls
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2008 04:33 am    Post subject:

Dave, I replied to your pm, but I wonder why do I now see a copy of what I typed in my "out box" instead of "sent box"? Are you receiving it?

Anyway, here's the gist of it, I didn't realize this before, but if we see screens differently because you have a different resolution, that can't be communicated too well by sending me a picture, because then I would also see that picture differently than you see that picture. When my layouts looks funny I need people to report the appearance in words, like this: "The writing is in a block that's two inches wide and three inches tall, and each word is a quarter of an inch tall."

Also, can you tell what your resolution is? I think you do: right-click on the desktop screen, then properties .. settings.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2008 06:19 am    Post subject:

I'l' try the screen print again.

I finally figured out that the personal message stays in your outbox untill it is picked up by the intended. it doesn't get sent like an email, apparently.

Also, let me point out that I suspect you of ill motives for pretending to not understand what I was seeing on my computer screen and then for you to inpugn my screen resolution. How dare you.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2008 01:56 pm    Post subject:

I understand the effect. On your screen, the pixels are bigger, so the 241-pixel-wide picture is wider, so the picture hogs more of the fixed 40 percent of the screen width that's allocated to both the words and the picture. That forces the area of words to be tall and thin. When I get a chance I'll either make a smaller picture or I'll move things around. No need for you to send me any more pictures.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2008 02:25 pm    Post subject:

Little known fact. An undocument google feature. You can get the definition of any word by going to google.com and typing into the search box

define:

... followed by the word. For example --

define:philately

... or ...

define:ecdysiast
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davesearles
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2008 09:02 pm    Post subject:

definitions:

On 6/2/05 I became the victim of personal injury fraud by a neighbor to one of my properties claiming that I (purposefully or with gross negligence) struck her with my vehicle. She brought every kind of criminal and quasi criminal proceeding against me that she could - all as an expected prelude to a civil action against me for "real" and punitive damages.

Luckily I had the ability to dig my heals in and countered in minutia her every statement, one of these cased was decided in my favor by the Vermont State Supreme Court.

But even though I successfully resided all of these peripheral proceedings none of them were determinative of a basic allegation of civil liability. But apparently my defense and my counter charges that she was committing fraud were so credible that she could find no attorney who would take the case on a contingency basis (the lawyer doesn't get any money unless s/he wins the case). She had to bring a lawsuit against me "within" the 3 year statute of limitations period.

last week I was counting the days until I would be in the clear.

What does "within" mean when it comes to such a time period.

In such a definition there are no fractions of days, so if the alleged incident occurred at noon of 6/2/05 they don't have a stop watch at the courthouse to determine that the case was filed against you by noon time of 6/2/08.

"Within" in this context I found means "no longer than". So for example if something had to be filed within one day of the alleged incident and the alleged incident occurred at 9:00 a.m. on a Monday if the required thing was done by close of business on the following day, that would have met the one day requirement.

She could have filed her lawsuit then by the close of business 6/2/08 and still have been "within" one year.

(I had at one point been thinking that she had to have filed it by 6/1/08.)

People get screwed up when statutes will specify that an appeal be filed "within 30 days". They make the sometimes fatal error of converting 30 days in their head to "one month".

I had a tenant who lost her case but wanted to keep it open as long as possible by appealing it. That would have screwed me up big time for money because she would not have had to pay rent during the appeal time. (almost a year in most cases) The judgment came down on October 10 and she filed her notice of appeal on November 10. Her case was automatically dismissed for failing to comply with the statute. Had the staute specified "one month" she would have been alright.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2008 12:03 am    Post subject:

Either 6/1/08 or 6/2/08 -- were you really so frazzled that you were worried about the statute of limitations down to calculating the very day? But is it over now? Are you free of that wicked old witch?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2008 07:03 am    Post subject:

Oh yes I was on the edge. Such a lawsuit could have been for millions. If successful it would have at least put me in assigned risk insurance for my car costing me big time.

I have found that the standard of proof in civil cases is remarkably low. In criminal cases the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil case the standard is more likely than not.

Also I have found that there is practically never an appeal available on the basic judgment of the trier of fact. 99.99% of successful civil appeals are won on procedure.

If successful she would have has a lien on all of my properties. This wouldn't be fatal necessarily because all of my properties are held jointly with my wife. If I die they all automatically go into her name alone escaping the reach of any lien. But if Patty died first they could have all be forced into a sheriff’s sale to satisfy the judgment.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2008 07:24 am    Post subject:

There a few loose ends legally.

The criminal TRIAL (on the issue of whether I did the deed), which started December 2006, still has not been concluded. It is in a virtual limbo. The court and prosecutor are so used to push-over lawyers who won't complain about everything in minutia as I have that they didn't assiduously keep track of the calendar concerning the case. Because for strategic purposes I opted for a judge trial rather than a jury trial my case came in (analogy alert) under the radar. They kept postponing it in favor of jury trials. Usually when this happens the prosecutor will offer a plea bargain so low that it is always gratefully accepted by the defense. But I won't budge so now (analogy alert) they are way over their heads in speedy trial violation they don't know what to do. So they do the only thing that they can do, allow it to appear on the calandar every once in a while but then take it back off.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2008 06:46 pm    Post subject:

Wah! Lots of site visitors, but they aren't using the forum! The statistics file shows 907 "unique visitors" in May. In April there are 1,128. Gotta think of a way to make them use the forum. Maybe my "authorization code" is too hard to understand, but until I added it I couldn't take the spam.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2008 06:56 pm    Post subject:

Today's search engine keywords resulting in visitors to the site:

43 different keyphrases Search Percent
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2008 09:40 pm    Post subject: Re: REGIONAL MEETING

PowerKord wrote:
1. Regarding my mail to you, it's a bit disconcerting that my good-faith communications fell into the void, apparently without much concern. You're a smart man, and a technically-oriented one; I'd have thought you'd have emplaced a system to competently process your email flow--and done so before you began losing people's emails.


I just found one of your recent emails in my trash directory. This it the entire email:

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Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 19:19:28 -0400
From: Vincent
Subject: Delete Post or Message
To: Mike Lepore

Why is no 'Delete Post' button appearing?


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That's the entire thing. Nothing specific enough to make it clear it's an actual message and not an address-fishing spam. No signature. A first name but no last name in the From header. It looks exactly like tens of thousands of spams that I receive.

I receive tens of thousands of spams that say only chatty things like "Hey, Mike, did you really mean that? - Betsy" -- "Hi Mike! how that that happen anyway? - Charlie." -- "Dear Mike, where did you say it was? -- Kevin." -- "Hello, Mr. Lepore: what time is that going to start?" - Sally"

Your email looks exactly like any address-fishing spam. Is it any surprise that I overlooked it?

So it's all my fault, right? It must be all my fault!

The only reason I now know it was from you is because I saw it by pure coincidence in the middle of a very long list, while I was doing a final delete on about fifty thousand spams. Then after I saw it I took extra time to find the headers in the source code, which don't display in my mail reader, to see the email address that it eminated from.

Okay, now I can answer your question.

Why didn't you see a "delete post button'. Answer: It looks like an "X" inside a small square, and you only see it after you log in.

Additional information:

Where would be a good place to post messages about help and technical problems? Answer: In the forum topic entitled, "Help and technical problems."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
apparently without much concern


A quota has been exceeded. This post already has another characterization of my evil motives. Two of them would exceed the specifications.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Jun 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
Play with your ding-a-ling at least one time in honor of Bo Diddley

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/03/arts/music/03diddley.html?hp#


Potential for a good joke except "My Ding-A-Ling" was sung by Chuck Berry, I'm pretty sure.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Jun 2008 07:24 am    Post subject:

And now, for some mommy-mommy jokes.

Mommy, mommy, what's for dinner?
Shut up and put your head back into the oven.

Mommy, mommy, can I lick the bowl?
Shut up a flush it like everyone else does.

Mommy, mommy, why am I running around in circles?
Shut up or I'll nail your other foot to the floor too.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 21 Jun 2008 05:14 pm    Post subject:

I have to attend a wedding this evening. So, getting ready... This is the part where I go through every pair of pants into the closet and separate them all into two categories that are called "unable to close the waist" and "nowhere near being able to close the waist."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2008 05:56 pm    Post subject:

Now I'm going to tell a strange tale about something that happened to me when I attended a wedding on Saturday night. I noticed a certain name in the guest book. It was the name of a student that I had in 1998 or 1999 or whenever it was, a year that I taught high school physics. At that time, she had said the worst imaginable things to me in class, a lot of personal hatred and insults for no apparent reason. So on Saturday night I walked over to a person who seemed to look like her and I asked, "Excuse me, is your name __?" She replied immediately with: "Oh, my God -- you're on my list. They told us in A.A. to make a list of everyone that our behavior has hurt, and who we would like to apologize to if we ever see them again. I said things to you that were totally inappropriate, and I want you to know I'm so sorry!" We had a great conversation for about fifteen minutes. I learned for the first time that she was a drunk when she was in high school. Today she's out of college and has a skilled career. Finally I sent her away with the assurance that she was now entitled to get out the list and cross that line off. Isn't that a hell of a story? Small world.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Jun 2008 07:43 pm    Post subject:

I haven't read you post above Mike, it looks interesting but I don't want to LOSE this site:

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors

A lot of interesting stuff. I had know idea that their were so many ways to go wrong in English.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Jun 2008 07:46 pm    Post subject:

Now I have read your post, yes that is quite remarkable.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2008 08:26 am    Post subject:

The common English errors that jump out at me are not in their list.

I just recently learned that imminent and immanent are two different words. For years I was inconsistent about which of those two spellings I believed to be correct. Then I found out that both are correct. They're just different words.

The most common Lepore spelling error is to confuse "-ence" endings and "-ance" endings (almost every time).

The most common Searles spelling error is to write "lose" as "loose."

My pet peeves is when people misspell words that have very simple rules for remembering them. How does one remember that "separate" is spelled correctly, and "seperate" is incorrect? The syllable "par" has the same root as the word "part." That's a simple rule.

The dialogue in cowboy scripts --the correct spellings are: "'I'm mighty hungry, Hoss!" and "I'm a mite hungry, Hoss!" One word refers to might, and the other word refers to a mite.

I just I checked to see if the list includes the spelling of Rhodes Scholar. Nope.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 05 Jul 2008 07:12 am    Post subject:

All strange facts must be reported. An interesting fact that I learned today: The famous physicist Max Born, who gave us the statistical interpretation of Schrodinger's wave equation, was the grandfather of singer Olivia Newton-John.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 06 Jul 2008 08:37 pm    Post subject:

* Moronic quote of the day *

"The love of trees and the pride in owning a home is hard to separate. The privilege in America to own a home and plant a tree on your own ground is of great value. It has been said that he, who plants a tree, is truly a servant of God. I sometimes wonder if this great value of the privilege of owning a piece of ground and building a home and planting a tree is in danger of being lost under the present creeping grip of socialism and communism."

Fred Bolten, in a speech at the 1952 annual meeting of the Northern Nut Growers Association -- http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/25935
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davesearles
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2008 06:52 am    Post subject:

I don't understand this at all. My bedroom windoews face just about 15 deg. to the west of actual north. At this time of year the sun sets almost to the maximoum northerly point on the horizon. My pillow is about 30 degrees from the window and as I was napping whikle the sun set I had to close the curatin becuase the sun was juust about in my eyes as it set at about 8:00 p.m.

Now you say that orbits of the sun and moon are only about 3 deg. off from one another - so how come when the moon set this evening at about 11:00 it was way south on the horizon than where the sun set. Almost west.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2008 05:13 pm    Post subject:

I'm very bad at visualizing things in three dimensions. My D in analytical geometry in college was part of the punishment that society imposes on me for being born with this handicap, but it never really ends. My tendency to get lost while driving is also part of it. Someone says make a left, then another left, then a right - well, that's it - that's all it takes - I'm lost. No way I can visualize those angles that you're talking about. I know the planets revolve around the sun in a plane that we call the ecliptic. The axis of each planet is tilted by some angle relative to the ecliptic. Then the observer looks out toward the sky with two more angles, declination and right ascension. Then there's the dependency on the day of the year. Then there's the dependency on the time of day. There's no way I could understand why a sun happens to be in the right place to shine into a window.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2008 05:29 pm    Post subject:

I'll simplify, the angle between the place on the horizon where the moon set and the sun set are about 20 degrees apart. The moon almost due west and the sun at least 25 degrees to the north of west.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2008 06:13 pm    Post subject:

There's no reason to mention the moon.

Just take an earth globe with the correct axis tilt, or prop it up to have the correct tilt. Put a lamp across the room to represent the sun. Take a little toy house from a Monopoly game and sit it on the globe at the right location and rotated to the proper orientation. Now make the earth rotate as well as revolve, and you will be able to see what season has to be, and what time it has to be, when the sun shines into the bedroom window.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 09 Jul 2008 06:45 pm    Post subject:

No that's not the issue. I understand pretty weel the movements of the sun and why aroud June 21 at sunset the sun shines in my eyes while I'm in bed. My question is when the moon set 3 hours later that it didn't follow the same apparent path as the sun but set about 25 degrees horizontally to the south? Given that both the moon and Earth orbit so close to the ecliptic I would not have expected that.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 14 Jul 2008 06:35 pm    Post subject:

Now I have the problem with having to sign on double. Big pain in the ass.

Has everyone at least tried the Google desktop program? I don't know why it's called that but its catalogs all of the text on your computer and you can find any file that contains that text in about 10 seconds as opposed to the minutes that the windows file search takes. (Can't beat the price, free)
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2008 08:09 pm    Post subject:

We should keep our files in a directory structure. If I go into my subdirectory named c:\notes\education\science\physics\optics\mirrors\concave, and there I do a search for the phrase "parabolic reflector", it will take less than a second. If I did the same search from the c:\ root directory, it would take a very long time.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008 01:49 am    Post subject:

Yes those searches take forever. What if you misfile something? What if you download something, you think you know where it's going to but then you realize you have no idea where it went. What if you have archived files in two or three hard drives and all you can remember is one close to unique word in the whole file? Try it once.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2008 05:54 am    Post subject:

Google recently gave Viacom a list of all of the Youtube videos that each of us has ever seen, so that Viacom can check each individual for having seen copyrighted material and sue us. For those of us who have Google accounts, such as AdSense or AdWords, which I do, that report includes my personal name, not just my IP number, in addition to the title of every Youtube video I have ever looked at. Knowing how lacking in ethics they are, I wouldn't let them scan the contents of my hard disk.

Even before this recent development I wouldn't allow any business to scan the contents of my hard disk. I'm sure a large number of advertisers are enjoying your personal files.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 22 Jul 2008 05:03 am    Post subject:

This is a true story and it's a little bit funny. For several years there were so many web sites that linked to the White House biography of Bush and contained the phrase "miserable failure" in the link, that the Google algorithm caused a strange result. Whenever someone searched for the phrase "miserable failure", the leading search result was the bio of Bush. However in Jan. 2007 Google changed their algorithm so that searching on that phrase it would no longer return tthat bio. instead, there are now so many web sites discussing how Google changed their algorithm, that the new result is: whenever someone search for the phrase "miserable failure" all of the leading results are about this change in Googles algorithm, which of course tells everyone about the bio of Bush.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2008 05:15 pm    Post subject:

Mike, does Goggle pick up our posts in this forum?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2008 05:22 pm    Post subject:

Big news - on 8/25 I was aquited on the charge that I hit the old lady with the van.

Also the charge against me that I violated a condition of reales related to that charge was dismissed.

This resolves all of the criminal charges against me in my favor.

On 6/2 she missed the deadline for her to bring a lawsuit against me. She couldn't even find a shyster to bring a nuisance sut on a contingency basis.

In 11/06 the Vermont Supreme Court dismissed a court finding that I had abused the old bitch.

One administrative matter to deal with now, and that's a constituitoanl challenge to the State's abuse registry process.

It keeps my mind in shape dealng with all of these things.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject:

davesearles wrote:
Mike, does Goggle pick up our posts in this forum?


Google has indexed most of these forum pages. Perhaps not the newest ones. They come around every few months to copy this site.

To find your own posts, search google for:

davesearles site:deleonism.org
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject:

What is "the State's abuse registry process" ?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject:

A picture of Dave's neighbor.

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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject:

"We melted her."

"Liquidated her, eh? Very resourceful!"
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject:

A great actress. Remember she (Margarette Hamilton) played Cora in the Maxwellhouse commercials in the 70s and 80s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 27 Jul 2008 05:52 pm    Post subject:

I remember her in that coffee commercial. I remember saying "The pointy-nosed witch is in this commercial!"

Subersive movie. How about that line: "Almira Gulch, just because you own half the county doesn't mean that you have the power to run the rest of us."

Not to underestimate the sheer profundity of the line:

"Where do you want to be oiled first?"
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davesearles
PostPosted: 27 Jul 2008 07:13 pm    Post subject:

rusted tin man: Oil can!

befuddled scarecrow: Oil can what?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 27 Jul 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject:

I'm pretty sure the first two movies made in color were 'The Wizard of Oz' and 'Gone With the Wind.' Then movie-making went back to solely B&W for a few years, then color was brought back. Not sure why. Cost of production?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Jul 2008 12:16 am    Post subject:

This is strange. Did you ever hear of plea bargaining with a speeding ticket? We know someone who got a ticket for speeding ticket. She made a plea of not guilty. The judge said he was about to convict her, but he prefers that everyone put in a guilty plea, so he offered to drop the speeding charge if she would plead guilty "to a lesser charge." So he changed the charge to "parking on the pavement", she put in a plea of guilty, and he threw out the speeding charge. How can someone be stopped for driving too fast and then the charge be changed to something related to parking in the wrong place?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Jul 2008 11:23 am    Post subject:

on the surface legally it can be done - the person prosecuting agrees to amend the charges.

It raises questions regarding that aspect the integrity of the legal system. Such as under what circumstances is a person eligiblw for such a conversion of charges? Does it help to have big tits? make a campaign contribution? be the relative of a friend? etc.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Jul 2008 05:14 pm    Post subject:

ML:

movie-making went back to solely B&W for a few years, then color was brought back. Not sure why. Cost of production?

DAS:

I was looking for an article on this but didn't find much. My guess is $$ and time. Studios cranked out movies at an astounding rate. Casablanca was filmed in a matter of weeks.

Also color photography required a whole new set of skills than B & W which had it's own set of skills. Up to 1966 there were separate academy awards for some aspects of b&w vs. color movies.

At the time I don't think that there was much call for color. Black and white added to the fantasy effect. Who needed reality? They spent their dime to escape that. (in my time movies cost 35 cents, almost twice the price of a gallon of gas!)
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davesearles
PostPosted: 29 Jul 2008 11:48 am    Post subject:

THE TEXT OF THIS MESSAGE BY USER davesearles WAS LOST BECAUSE OF MY ERROR.
M. L.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Aug 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject:

MY PRECIOUS WORDS DOWN THE SHIT HOLE. I GUESS THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Aug 2008 08:46 am    Post subject:

Uh oh, the cause of that was: I accidentally hit the edit button instead of the quote button, and when I typed my reply it replaced your words with my words. There's no way for me to reverse the damage except to remove my words from your post, which I just did. I can't recover what you wrote.

{A picture of a horse's butt with my name on it}

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The paragraphs that I had written were:

For all of the kinds of links that we have used here, no difference betweem phpbb2 and phpbb3. When they say "html in posts" they mean html tags in angle brackets (I have always kept that feature turned off). It has no effect on bbcode tags in square brackets.

They added a lot of features that don't interest me and would require time-consuming maintenance work.

Google already spiders the old version. Perhaps the change makes it easier for google.

Installation of one of these things also takes several hours. And these's no easy way to transfer topics full of old message to a newer version unless the MySQL database is smaller than 2 megabytes, and the one I have here is a lot bigger than that.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2008 04:02 am    Post subject:

So I've been thinking, I would like to see videos of people in everyday places, like sitting on a park bench, or leaning on a lamp post, and talking into the video camera about why class divided society is miserable, why we need collective ownership, why the workers should control industry. I've been learning some basic video editing because I had to help my daughter make a dvd about her field hockey skills as part of her college application process. Getting the technlogy to work has been terrible. I've finally had success transferring recordings from the digital camcorder to a dvd recorder via a firewire cable, writing it to a dvd, reading the dvd into the computer, editing the scenes, adding fancy fades, wipes, captions, etc., and writing the result to a new dvd, which ordinary dvd players successfully play back. We have the hardware to plug the camcorder directly into the computer instead of going through the step with the dvd recorder, but we can't get the computers to detect the camcorder on the firewire port. Online searches show many of people are having the same problems getting microsoft windows xp and vista to work with firewire. We have "professional" video editing software -- that means it can do a lot but it's difficult to learn how to use. Video production ideas wanted.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject:

Just as a bit of useless history.

Back when the phonograph record was the great new medium, the Jehhovah's Witnesses would go around, believe it or not with windup phonograpgh record players and apparently a little stand to put it on, asking people if they would agree to listen to the record.

But to your point I think one technique could be to start is with a story board, essentailly a powerpoint presentation and then add video to some of the powerpoint frames. Of course all the while you are adding video you might have to go back and edit the story board, and keep on going until you have all video and no powerpoint.

There must be an online course somewhere on making halfway decent videos.

My daughter's computer has a TV card in it. (She can hook to an antenna and watch TV) I can plug my video camera into her computer with a video cable and record directly to the hard drive skipping recording to the tape in the camera. But then I have to convert the image to dvd from (whatever the standard video fromat is, Im still on my first cup of coffee), a technique I have not yet mastered or the computer perhaps doesn't have enough processing ability to acomplish it. (sure blame the computer)

Having one or two external 500 gb hard drives is helpful. You can buy them at Staples cheap enough as internal drives and then they have a case that they sell for about $40 that the internal hard drive goes into which has an adapter so you connect to the computer with a usb cable.

But getting back the place to start is to have a story. Just as a general priciple with videos, less is more. Each one of the "special effects" that come with such editing soft ware usually says "the guy editing this video has zero ability to see how stupid this looks."
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2008 03:17 pm    Post subject:

I agree about the special effects. The ability to write name captions and scrolling credits is good.

Did you see the half-hour PBS documentary about The Internationale, the song? They interviewed singers who have recorded it, including Pete Seeger and Billy Bragg, and showed footage of a French chorus singing the original.

What kind of stories would be good for a new video? One of the messages that should be conveyed is: it's not the choice of leaders -- it's the system.

There are also cheap DVDs for sale with uncopyrighted stock footage. If you need a six second shot of a national monument, a four second shot of a cornfield, etc.

You mentioned video format. I'm trying several kinds. I'm playing around now with saving individual scenes in .mpg or .wmv files, and then in the final stage I can drag them in sequence into the dvd writing program. At a screen size of 640X480 or 720X480 pixels for standard U.S. TV, the file size for .mpg is about 50 million bytes per minute.

The Windows Movie Maker program that comes free with windows can import wmv or mpg, but it always saves in wmv format. The Movie Edit Pro (MEP) software I have, sold by the Magix company, reads and writes in many more formats.

Teen daughter Kimberly made a video of herself playing field hockey to give to the college coaches. To edit it, she imported seven hours of DVD of herself, and used the software's indexing method. That doesn't save sleected scenes in additional files, but files that save time index coordinates that point to groups of frames in the original imported video. You have to keep the whole source on the hard drive until you write the final DVD. The DVD format is MPEG-2, which is about 2.5 gigabytes per hour.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2008 04:52 pm    Post subject:

Now that your brain is tuned to this topic I'll have to try once more to burn a dvd. I had to end up recording what I needed to present to court on a VHS tape.

Did Pete have a decent set of English lyrics for the Internationale?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 24 Aug 2008 05:00 pm    Post subject:

There's a neat program to use, mostly in security purposes - is that you hook the camera to the computer which shows a live image. You can draw a box around a point of interest on the screen and set the program to record anytime there is movement in that quadrant. Better yet you can set it to start the recording any number of seconds prior to the movement and end any number of seconds after the movement stops.

In a self recorded movie of yourself giving a presentation you wouldn't have to start and stop the recording just move off screen and the recording will stop by itself, move back ao and continue to move at least slightly and the recording will stay on.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 25 Aug 2008 03:39 am    Post subject:

I never heard Pete sing it, but the mentioned him singing it in the documentary. Billy Bragg rewrote all of the lyrics in a modern style.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 25 Aug 2008 03:48 am    Post subject:

In case this wasn't known, writing a DVD, if you expect a DVD player to play it, isn't just a matter of taking video files on the computer and using the DVD as a storage for them. It needs a certain structure. The video file itself is converted to the right format, and then chopped up into a sequence of several files, all having the name extention .VOB, and placed into a certain directory on the DVD. So CD/DVD writing software intended for computer data backup and archival won't necessarily make something that a DVD player can play. But it it's video editing software that has a "burn this" button, it will make the right format. The "Magix Movie Edit Pro 14" that Kim bought cost her about $45 off the shelf in a box.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 25 Aug 2008 01:45 pm    Post subject:

Makes a nice boozy song but, don't cling so hard to your possessions?

Stand up, all victims of oppression
For the tyrants fear your might
Don't cling so hard to your possessions
For you have nothing, if you have no rights
Let racist ignorance be ended
For respect makes the empires fall
Freedom is merely privilege extended
Unless enjoyed by one and all

Chorus:
So come brothers and sisters
For the struggle carries on
The Internationale
Unites the world in song
So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race

Let no one build walls to divide us
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us
We'll live together or we'll die alone
In our world poisoned by exploitation
Those who have taken, now they must give
And end the vanity of nations
We've but one Earth on which to live

And so begins the final drama
In the streets and in the fields
We stand unbowed before their armour
We defy their guns and shields
When we fight, provoked by their aggression
Let us be inspired by like and love
For though they offer us concessions
Change will not come from above

http://www.mp3lyrics.org/b/billy-bragg/the-internationale/
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davesearles
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject:

I think that one of the programs that my computer automatically loads upon startuo is screwing up my computer. Whenever I boot I have to go into setup mode and reset the default mode to allow the computer to start or else I will get the meaase to instal a boot disk and hit enter.

How can I control what loads so I can eliminate them one by one to see which if anything is screwing with things.

ALSO

I have never seen this before, but usually in setup mode you can set what is going to be the boot disk, what is going to attempt to boot next, etc. My computer doesn't allow this (it's a Dell) What gives?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject:

Mike I have sent you a private message.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2008 01:51 am    Post subject:

Click on start, run. Type the word msconfig and click OK. Click on the General tab. To take control of what programs will load, change the checked box from Normal Startup to Selective Startup. Click on the startup tab. The boxes that are checked are items that will load automatically when the system starts.

If you're not sure whether some of the weird names are ordinary part of windows, it's possible to search google for the weird names to read about what they are.

The next time you restart it should pop up a warning: Hey buddy you are using selective startup, we just thought we'd let you know.... check this box if you don't want to see this message in the future.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2008 07:40 am    Post subject:

thanks, will try, but do you know about the 2nd part? How can there not be a way to designate which drive will boot?

I downloaded a program to check the hard disk that is supposed to boot from the cd drive. But it wont boot.

Is there a way to make boot diskettes for windows xp? It's like a million years ago since I made one for my windows millenium computer. How about making a boot disk for a cd?
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2008 06:01 pm    Post subject:

I don't know those answers. I only know that, during a startup, there's a short time that lasts for about one second during which you can press one of the function keys, I don't know which key, and the startup will pause to let you made some decisions. All I ever used it for was to run diagnostics.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2008 07:11 pm    Post subject:

Now I see my problem is bigger than before. I was deluding myself when I thought that simply resetting the defaults would cure the boot problem. It seems to be happening more and more. I start from a cold start, it doesn't boot windows but Instead I get a message about needing to have a boot disk. I have run tests on my hard drive, that doesn't seem to be the issue, but who knows.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 29 Aug 2008 12:49 am    Post subject:

How do you know it's not the drive? The messages that log out are very cryptic. Did you use "event viewer" to see the system errors that log out? Cick on start, settings, control panel, administrative tools, event viewer, system, and then click on the individual lines in the list. There are a lot of codes that are only meaningful to programmers.

I just noticed that I have a system error logged out. "The network address translator was unable to request an operation of the kernel mode translation module." Thank's microsoft, that info is so helpful to me.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject:

I thnk that I fixed the problem. It wasn't the computer. I was down in the basement by the circuit breakers and heard a buzzing. The breaker that feeds the computer's circuit hadn't been pushed in all the way so there was just a tiny bit of arcing. Apaprently that was sending some kind of signal to the computer causing it to not boot into windows.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2008 09:14 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, to properly reset a circuit breaker, it needs to be pushed all the way to the off position first, and then pushed to the on position.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 02 Sep 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject:

no not that - the breaker wasn't pressed fully onto the gizmo that holds it thereby the connection wasn't fully made. Muy mal.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 03 Sep 2008 03:55 am    Post subject:

It seems that as if by magic we no longer have to log on twice.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 03 Sep 2008 09:15 am    Post subject:

now that damned double log in is back. I should have kept my trap shut.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 03 Sep 2008 07:05 pm    Post subject:

In Internet Explorer, if you spell your user name or password incorrectly at a web site logon, and you check the browser's "remember this", how do you get the incorrect one out of the system? Did you ever see the option setting for that? About six months ago I made a typo in my name, and now about one time in every ten or so, randomly, the incorrect one is the one that appears.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Sep 2008 04:04 am    Post subject:

Speaking of democracy, I'm guessing that the phrase "the big Kahoona" originally came from the 1959 movie "Gidget" wth Sandra Dee. In the movie Gidget has a male friend named Kahoona.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 08 Sep 2008 10:54 am    Post subject:

kahoonas at some point started to refer to testicles. As in: He kicked me right in the kahoonas!
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 08 Sep 2008 05:08 pm    Post subject:

I didn't know that. I thought the big kahoona meant the boss.

However, thre are a lot of slang expressions that I have misunderstood from the context.

A few years ago the HBO series "G-String Divas" caused me to assume that diva meant stripper. Later I heard a certain classically trained actress described as a diva, and I went wow, I didn't know she did that too.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2008 02:18 pm    Post subject:

I know now, you were thinking of the Spanish word "cajones", pronounced kah-ho-nays. Literally, the dresser drawers, but also a slang term for something else.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 10 Sep 2008 04:53 am    Post subject:

Oh, boy! First beam for the Large Hadron Collider!!!!

http://lhc-first-beam.web.cern.ch/

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/science/09collide.html
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davesearles
PostPosted: 17 Sep 2008 02:49 am    Post subject:

I have another big hearing tomorrow. Hopefuly the last - so nothing from me today. But I'm sure that you can all get on nicely without me. Dave
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davesearles
PostPosted: 17 Sep 2008 08:04 pm    Post subject:

The hearing went well. We shall see.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 24 Sep 2008 08:59 pm    Post subject:

Bible Quote of the Day
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"A loving doe, a graceful deer -- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love."

Proverbs 5:19
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 04:13 am    Post subject:

Man, you should have heard the foul language to come out of my mouth about a half-hour ago. The cable TV company deleted the sound portion of the broadcast for about fifteen minutes, and replaced it with, "Squeek squeek. This is a an test of the emergency broadcast system. Squeek squeek. If this had been an actual emergency, you would be given special instructions. Squeek squeek squeek." They did this during the airport scene of Casablanca! I didn't know I was capable of such filthy language.
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 11:57 am    Post subject:

Mike -

We aren't writing love notes to one another so can you disable the smilies?

I think that we ought to encourge the use of words wherever possible.

(As a matter of style I don't mind the occasional ":-)" to denote that the writer knows what he or she has written is not to be taken seriously. )

What do others think?
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cmiller2005
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 01:08 pm    Post subject:

I'd be happy if Mike would just acknowledge receipt of my e-mails. How bout it Mike?
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davesearles
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 01:55 pm    Post subject:

carl - mike has repeatedly stated that the best way to contact him is through the PM function on this forum. Have you tried that? Simply go to memberlist, find Mike's name and push the little buttion that says PM and fill in the box. Works every time.
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 05:57 pm    Post subject:

Dave, I told Carl to email me because he needs to attach some HTML files, which PM can't do, I think.

Carl, I'll download my incoming mail later today. I can't just check my mail spontaneously like other people. It's a task that I have to schedule, because for every one piece of real mail I get over 3,000 spams. Then I have to revise my algorithm to filter them; for example, if the from header or subject header contains any of the following words, then delete it: rolex, naked, mortgage, britney, bank, viagra, discount, orgasm, congratulations, nude, winner, cialis, ...
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 26 Sep 2008 06:32 pm    Post subject:

I created a poll topic so users can vote on the great controversy about disabling smilies in the forum. Read my message there for further instructions.

http://deleonism.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=342
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mikelepore
PostPosted: 28 Sep 2008 08:44 am    Post subject:

Americans become astronauts, Rusians become cosmonauts, and now Chinese become taikonauts. It's bad enough we don't have a unified world program to explore space; we don't even give them the same job title.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-09/27/content_10120443.htm
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